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Allis B Brake Pad Pin

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carbonfibers

02-22-2008 05:31:24




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Even though I am still fighting getting the old pin out, I know I will need a new one. Can anyone tell me where I can purchase one?

Thanks,

Wayne




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DARDAN

02-25-2008 10:23:00




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 Re: Allis B Brake Pad Pin in reply to carbonfibers, 02-22-2008 05:31:24  
The method I used that had the least work and violence was:
Heat pin very hot to expand it, hopefully to crush some of that rust that locks it.
Let cool till cold, then drown with Kroil.
Let penetrant soak a couple of hours, drown again and peck on top side of pin with a light hammer, just to vibrate it and help the penetrant work.
This frees them up to where I walk them out sideways enough to get hold of them with pliers/vicegrips.

I liked the drillpress/hacksaw for pins, BTDT. Poor man's lathe!

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Bob Huntress

02-22-2008 15:23:33




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 Re: Allis B Brake Pad Pin in reply to carbonfibers, 02-22-2008 05:31:24  
I'm hoping someone has a good answer for where to get new ones. After having to cut the ones from mine, I had to turn two more. It didn't cost anything, but I don't have a lathe avalible, anymore.



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Carbonfibers

02-29-2008 21:36:54




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 Re: Allis B Brake Pad Pin in reply to Bob Huntress, 02-22-2008 15:23:33  
I used a 7 inch long by 5/8 inch diameter bolt I bought at Home Depot. I cut the smooth part of the bolt to the correct lengh, It fit perfectly. I drilled a small hole for the keeper pin I got at a hardware store.

Someone mentioned 1/2 inch bar stock, but my pins were 5/8 inch in diameter.

Wayne



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Bob Huntress

02-22-2008 15:30:10




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 Re: Allis B Brake Pad Pin in reply to Bob Huntress, 02-22-2008 15:23:33  
Touche'. As I read further into what is being posted, I noticed that is what you guys do, also. As I remember, and it has been awhile, the pins were slightly smaller around than standard stock, aren't they. I remember that I had to turn them down.



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DickL

02-22-2008 17:18:03




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 Re: Allis B Brake Pad Pin in reply to Bob Huntress, 02-22-2008 15:30:10  
Standard 1/2" drill bit to ream the rust out and clean up the off center 3/8" hole to push out the rusty pins. 1/2" bar stock with no cleaning up on the outside diameter. Just cut to length and cut the groove as stated below.



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justin14054

02-22-2008 13:39:24




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 Re: Allis B Brake Pad Pin in reply to carbonfibers, 02-22-2008 05:31:24  
Dick,
Excellent idea=Learn something new everyday=I know next time my hands will be happier
Justin



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justin14054

02-22-2008 13:39:17




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 Re: Allis B Brake Pad Pin in reply to carbonfibers, 02-22-2008 05:31:24  
Dick,
Excellent idea=Learn something new everyday=I know next time my hands will be happier
Justin



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Dick L

02-22-2008 06:49:50




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 Re: Allis B Brake Pad Pin in reply to carbonfibers, 02-22-2008 05:31:24  
third party image

I make my own pins. I cut a pin from bar stock, chuck it up in a drill press. Lock the drill down so where I want the groove is at the top of a drill press vice, while the pin is spinning I rest a hacksaw on the vice and cut the groove the depth needed. Only takes a few minutes and is just as good as you buy. New clips can be bought in most hardware stores.

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justin14054

02-22-2008 05:46:38




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 Re: Allis B Brake Pad Pin in reply to carbonfibers, 02-22-2008 05:31:24  
Carbon Not sure where your from but both of these places should have what you need and will mail.
www.paulstractorsales.com

Stoller tractor=Smithville ohio

As for the infamous pins removal=Tire off,BFH and good drift punch=I have had your experience a couple times=My hand still hurts years later from misses.Hopefully someone can help with a better trick
Justin



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carbonfibers

02-22-2008 07:30:03




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 Re: Allis B Brake Pad Pin in reply to justin14054, 02-22-2008 05:46:38  
Thanks for the info on the pin. I have beat on it with a punch and a mall, I have broken a 5/16 inch bolt and a 3/8 bolt and a tap trying to pull it out. I have used a chisel and Dremell to cut the brake pad metal retainer away. I have also cut the brake pin in half and I still can not get it to move. Today I will attempt to twist it with a pipe wrench and a cheater bar. If that does not work I will weld a long flat bar on the pin and try to twist it that way.

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Dick L

02-22-2008 07:44:35




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 Re: Allis B Brake Pad Pin in reply to carbonfibers, 02-22-2008 07:30:03  
The last few I have taken out I drilled the holes like in the picture above and and used my air hammer with a punch and they make a rust dust and start moving. I took out a pair of pins for a fellow a while back and he was not here more than a half hour total time. I drilled the two 3/8" holes, punched out the pins and removed the pinion shaft, pulled the brake drum and brake band out of the casting, loaded it back in his pickup and he was gone. If you are close to me load it up and I will do the same for you.

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carbonfibers

02-22-2008 08:50:40




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 Re: Allis B Brake Pad Pin in reply to Dick L, 02-22-2008 07:44:35  
Thanks very much for the offer. I am in Destrehan, Louisiana. The tractor is in the work shop with one wheel off. I only intended to change one brake pad, but you you how that goes. I have half of the tractor apart, rear wheel, fender, hydraulic lift piston and the lift bar support on the right side. That is why my father had this brake pad in the shop for as many years as I can remember.

I will try the air hammer with the punch.

Wayne

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carbonfibers

02-22-2008 16:08:03




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 Re: Allis B Brake Pad Pin Final Update in reply to carbonfibers, 02-22-2008 08:50:40  
Dick L, the idea of the air hammer worked along with some rust eater. I do not know whether all the other stuff like drilling, banging and cutting the pin in half helped, but it is OUT now. I think the air hammer was the trick. Thanks to everyone. Finding a new pin or making one is the easy part.

Wayne



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DickL

02-22-2008 17:01:56




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 Good Deal in reply to carbonfibers, 02-22-2008 16:08:03  
I have very thin patience when it comes to taking things apart so I have to devise a quick way. I quit swearing a number of years back and I do not need the temptation. (:^D



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