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GSL

02-20-2008 18:01:36




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The hand clutch on my WD-45 keeps popping forward. I have to hold it back with a rubber bungy to keep it from popping out. Anyone have a detailed remedy?




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DARDAN

02-27-2008 21:50:17




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 Re: Hand clutch in reply to GSL, 02-20-2008 18:01:36  
My elder neihbor thought that WD hand clutch was the greatest thing since sliced bread. You see, he was real short in height and could not manage the off sided foot clutch, so he used the hand clutch exclusivly, start-stop and shift the gears. He farmed 80+ acres up into his 80s with that WD.



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GSL

02-22-2008 14:29:32




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 Re: Hand clutch in reply to GSL, 02-20-2008 18:01:36  
How will I know if I need to remove a shim or not on that hand clutch? And how many shims are usually on that?



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Tfanning

02-23-2008 02:54:03




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 Re: Hand clutch in reply to GSL, 02-22-2008 14:29:32  
The post from Gordin in Indiana below indicates the clearance is .030. I don't recall how many shims are in the pack. If the pack is around 1/16 to 1/8 you can assume all the shims are there and the clutch has never been adjusted. Tom



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Tfanning

02-22-2008 05:26:00




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 Re: Hand clutch in reply to GSL, 02-20-2008 18:01:36  
The surface that the rollers contact will wear and will cause the clutch to disengage as you described. Remove the battery box and clutch cover; loosen bolts that hold the shims - don't have to remove them; release the large snap ring and rotate the clutch assembly about 1/2 inch. This will give the rollers a new surface to run on. This is also a good time to remove a shim or two if necessary. Tom

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jd plowboy

02-21-2008 16:15:39




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 Re: Hand clutch in reply to GSL, 02-20-2008 18:01:36  
that hand clutch in my opinion was junk. i bought a wd and had it in the shop with the starter off for 2 days and when i put the starter back on it acted like the engine was stuck. we took the plugs outs and you could not turn the engine any. you could pull it 5 feet and it would crank right up. come to find out the hand clutch froze up and locked everything up. i got a wd45 to pull with and the hand clutch section was the first piece to go on the scrap pile.

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mlpankey

02-21-2008 18:01:06




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 Re: Hand clutch in reply to jd plowboy, 02-21-2008 16:15:39  
plowboy sounds like the starter nose cone is youre promblem. or a stuck starter the hand clutch is behind the starter under the battery tray.



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jd plowboy

02-22-2008 13:37:51




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 Re: Hand clutch in reply to mlpankey, 02-21-2008 18:01:06  
i know that we took the starter out also and it still would not turn over. i talked with the allis chalmers dealer and he said the hand clutch was the problem. i traded it on a wc and i didnt have to worry about hat problem again. the problem on mine was the hand clutch locked up.



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JMS/.MN

02-21-2008 17:41:05




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 Re: Hand clutch in reply to jd plowboy, 02-21-2008 16:15:39  
If the hand clutch was "locked up" it would simply be connecting between the foot clutch and the transmission- ie, transmitting power. You cannot have a "stuck" engine, pull it, and get it to start right up. What does removing and installing the starter have to do with anything? AC put out 236,958 WD and WD45 tractors, but your opinion is noted.



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mlpankey

02-21-2008 05:56:37




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 Re: Hand clutch in reply to GSL, 02-20-2008 18:01:36  
gordons right . if you think about tractor pulling with it ever .youll need to bolt it out or do away with it completely . theyll always cost you some feet at a pull . notorius for slipping .



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Jack a

02-21-2008 12:03:04




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 Re: Hand clutch in reply to mlpankey, 02-21-2008 05:56:37  
You must be running high HP. My stock tractors have never been a problem at pulls.



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mlpankey

02-21-2008 12:20:34




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 Re: Hand clutch in reply to Jack a, 02-21-2008 12:03:04  
people say theyll feal the slipp with horsepower as low as 85 horses. but reality is they slipp lower than that youll just not know it without really watching the tires from the side of tractor.



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Jack a

02-21-2008 13:40:35




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 Re: Hand clutch in reply to mlpankey, 02-21-2008 12:20:34  
I believe you at 85 hp but then I pull stock and don't have to worry about such. I should say I used to pull, now I plow.



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Gordon in In

02-20-2008 20:42:18




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 Re: Hand clutch in reply to GSL, 02-20-2008 18:01:36  
Adjust the clutch (by removing shims between the two "halves" of the clutch housing to establish the proper clutch plate clearance). This can be done after removing the battery box and the hand (transmision) clutch cover plate under the battery box. Refer to a good service manual for detailed instructions and clearance specifications. The old "IT service manual" gives .030 inch clearance. Also, after the clutch is adjusted, adjust the linkage to provide a "snap" over center with some clearance.

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