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Model b starter

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Parafin Pete

02-13-2008 04:48:12




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Hi every body,
Just a quick line to see if any body can help me with advice on converting my model B to electric start.I guess I will need starter ring, starter,dynamo, battery ,battery box, starter button...any thing else? Also does any one supply a complete kit? Not all parts are available in England and I dont know if American firms will ship to UK.
The reason that I ask is because I broke my arm on Saturday whilst hand cranking my 1950 Model B

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Mike in Ohio

02-13-2008 06:33:03




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 Re: Model b starter in reply to Parafin Pete, 02-13-2008 04:48:12  
Pete, does the torque tube have a provision for a starter? It will be a large bulge in the bellhousing just behind the oil filter. You will also need a generator if it doesn't have one. If it doesn't I would just switch to 12 volt now. You can find all of the wiring diagrams here on this forum, just type in 12 volt conversion in the search spot at the top. You may not be able to find a 10si delco alternator in the UK but I'm sure there is something that will work as well. In the archives look for posts by Rod NH and Duey on the subject. Good luck And hope you feel better soon. Mike. PS Grandpa broke his arm twice cranking the b I have now, once in the 40s or 50s and once in the late 70s.

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Parafin pete

02-13-2008 08:17:36




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 Re: Model b starter in reply to Mike in Ohio, 02-13-2008 06:33:03  
Thanks for the advice Mike.
It does have a blanking plate on the bell housing but I havent split her apart yet to see if there is a starting gear on the flywheel. Its never had any electrics so there is no generator.Could be an expensive job for all the bits alone.
Peter



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Dick L

02-13-2008 11:16:59




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 Re: Model b starter in reply to Parafin pete, 02-13-2008 08:17:36  
You can look or feel under and behind the pan to tell it it has a starter ring gear. Like what was said you could just install a starter and use a jump start battery. The rest could be added as time and money would allow. I have 20 running tractors and do not even try to keep good batterys in more than three or four. I bought a jump start battery and dont worry about the battery thing.

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Clay in MI

02-13-2008 09:43:43




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 Re: Model b starter in reply to Parafin pete, 02-13-2008 08:17:36  
I've been thinking about this for my B also. My plan was to just add the starter and use an "external" battery to start the tractor. That way you wouldn't have to deal with a battery box, sheet metal, alternator, and wiring. Less convenient but cheaper.



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