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Live crank pump on WD coupler

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NE IA

02-02-2008 22:16:29




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I have a WD turned around backwards with loader / live pump on the crank. The preveous owner said that every ten years he had to rebuild the flanges on the drive coupling. I purchased a new one probably five years ago and since then the guy went out of business.

I think I'd like to have one on hand if I could find one at a decent price. It is the one that goes on the tractor pulley where the hand crank would have gone in. I have wondered if it is indeed a hand crank pulley. The flanges sure look the same as alot of hand crank tractor have. By this I remember they are shaped like two mountians with high peaks. A old guy told me to keep grease on them to make them last.

I know there are probably a lot of different ones, and I know that I should have written the part number down. It is one of those jobs that you do not look forward to if I have to change it out or rebuild it. So that is why I asked the question without alot of facts. It sounds like the weather is going to give me some time to research this next week.

I realize it is kinda like asking what kind of tractor do I have--it is orange and rusty? I'm hoping that there is a real common one.

Thanks NE IA

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JMS/.MN

02-03-2008 00:04:37




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 Re: Live crank pump on WD coupler in reply to NE IA, 02-02-2008 22:16:29  
I reversed a WD about 1977- still have it, but with some modifications. First option was a sheave that clamped onto the original single sheave crankshaft pulley....we don"t need to talk about that. Then I had a stub shaft machined, after welding into the original single sheave pulley. Connected to the pump with a lovejoy coupling- three jaws each side, with a rubber coupling in between to cushion and compensate for a bit of mis-alignment. Always tight to work within the limited inches between the engine and radiator, etc. Third and current solution was to go to a double chain coupling- #50,60?, different pump- and most importantly- I used C-channel to add to the tractor frame...giving more workspace. 6-8 inches- whatever the distance is on the steering bolster, between the front and rear bolts? I added a few inches of C-frame, so the rear bolt of the original bolster (casting) is still in the original main frame, but the front bolt goes into the added C-frame. I can picture what part you are talking about- but there is also the mating part- and if one wears out, the other does as well. That"s why I would recommend that you redo the drive with common parts, like Weld-a-Sprockets, Dodge drive parts, etc. Something that we can hope will be around years from now.

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steve from mo - dangit!

02-04-2008 06:36:48




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 Re: Live crank pump on WD coupler in reply to JMS/.MN, 02-03-2008 00:04:37  
Would this be something like the Oliver coupling?



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JMS/.MN

02-04-2008 07:48:40




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 Re: Live crank pump on WD coupler in reply to steve from mo - dangit!, 02-04-2008 06:36:48  
Yes- I"ve seen those on Olivers- they are a generic product. Each sprocket half is full size and you can buy double wide roller chain to hold the two together. Not like, for example, on Gleaner combine head drives- they use a sprocket that is half of normal width, and use a single width roller chain to couple.



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