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hay baler price for WD

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Guyzoo

02-01-2008 14:38:22




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Hi everybody, I would like to buy a brand new hay baler since used balers are pretty hard to find where I live and when you find one there is not alot of life left in it. So I would like to know what would approximately be the price of a brand new new holland square baler that my WD will handle (WD-45 engine). I would also like to know if they are good balers if anybody have experience with them. Thank you so much it is really appreciated

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jhb

02-06-2008 17:15:31




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 Re: hay baler price for WD in reply to Guyzoo, 02-01-2008 14:38:22  
Where are you located? Distance is a major cost.
I have a good lightly used IH 46 with drop and loading extension. Stored inside always, unused since 1976. Dubuque, Iowa - 395 picked up. Ph. 563.590.0721 after 2/7/08



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Guyzoo

02-02-2008 18:20:23




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 Re: hay baler price for WD in reply to Guyzoo, 02-01-2008 14:38:22  
Thank you alot guys your opinions are really appreciated, I am not doing this for money it is just for my own use. I already have a new hollend sickle bar mower, 2 hay rakes (one good and one for parts), and my two tractors (a farmall H and an allis-chalmers WD). I am going to the college right now but it will only be this summer that I will be able to get me one or two horses. So I think that little at a time I will be able to get a small baler for my wd and a hay tedder. After that I will try look for a plow, a disc and other implements. I know that I won't have all that tomorrow but I'll take it a little at a time. As I said, this is not for the money, it is just for a hobby and keeping the fields free of brush. Thanks alot for your interest!! Guyzoo

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andrew youngman

02-02-2008 12:20:50




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 Re: hay baler price for WD in reply to Guyzoo, 02-01-2008 14:38:22  
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I own about just over 20 acres only (try to sneak on to the neighbors when they let me). Here is my bill for getting a keeping machine moving, buying seed, mind you I traded a tractor and paid 500 to upgrade.

I have a 1969 John Deere 24R w/thrower. I had to buy a used knotter last year, and a couple parts for the thrower.

Here are the expenses

Baler 600
Trailer & Plow 900
Tractor 500
Hay Wagon 300
Seed 400
Planter 75 (lucky a brillion in the weeds
Welding 150
Diesel 250
Hi-lift 46
Hitch carrier 36
Chainsaw 108
Red Rider 150
Green Rider 675
Binder 30
Bushing/stroke 15
Small Trailer 12.50
13.98 baler tube
217 parts/oils/lube/bolts
69 baler tire
171.55 more parts/oil/bolts
4,900$ Total About 400 bales only out of about 12 acres - Next year will be alot more.

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Andrew Youngman

02-02-2008 11:54:59




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 Re: hay baler price for WD in reply to scottnga, 02-01-2008 14:38:22  

skyharborcowboy said: (quoted from post at 16:44:48 02/02/08)
ArleninOr said: (quoted from post at 20:56:12 02/01/08) Some where around $15,000 to $20,000 Don't think that you can justify that much if only baling 1000 bales a year Try to find a good 336 or 338 JD or 315/320 NH both good balers


I am a buyer of hay not a seller but $15000/1000 is $1.50 into a bale (we are paying $9-10 a bale for alfalfa here in AZ right now) in one year. That does not seem to be that expensive to me. It seems that balers last a heck of a long time so that honestly seems like it is an easy cost to justify if that is what he wants.

Joe


Actually I do beleive the Math is 15000 / 1.50 = 10,000 So that would be 15$ a bale before a drill,disc, plow, drag, seed, lime, fert, tractor fuel, shovels, tires, trailer, etc...... Make sure you are serious.

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skyharborcowboy

02-02-2008 10:53:10




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 Re: hay baler price for WD in reply to Guyzoo, 02-01-2008 14:38:22  
Geez,

I cant believe I did my math that bad that early in the morning! MY BAD! Now I feel like I complete moron! I guess you shouldnt try to do something so easy after being up all night!

LOL!

Joe

PS. Math was my best subject in school too! LOL!



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skyharborcowboy

02-02-2008 07:44:48




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 Re: hay baler price for WD in reply to mlpankey, 02-01-2008 14:38:22  

ArleninOr said: (quoted from post at 20:56:12 02/01/08) Some where around $15,000 to $20,000 Don't think that you can justify that much if only baling 1000 bales a year Try to find a good 336 or 338 JD or 315/320 NH both good balers


I am a buyer of hay not a seller but $15000/1000 is $1.50 into a bale (we are paying $9-10 a bale for alfalfa here in AZ right now) in one year. That does not seem to be that expensive to me. It seems that balers last a heck of a long time so that honestly seems like it is an easy cost to justify if that is what he wants.

Joe

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Bill(Wis)

02-02-2008 09:02:04




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 Re: hay baler price for WD in reply to skyharborcowboy, 02-02-2008 07:44:48  
At $1.50 per bale and 1000 bales per year it would take ten years to pay off the principle without interest. Sooo..if he has $15,000 burning a hole in his pocket and he spends it on a baler, in essence, he will be paying $15 per bale if he wants to get that same $15,000 back in his pocket within a year. It doesn't sound to me like he's all that concerned about making any money in the hay business, so what the heck, let the good times roll!

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Bill(Wis)

02-02-2008 04:50:08




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 Re: hay baler price for WD in reply to Guyzoo, 02-01-2008 14:38:22  
$12,827.10 without a thrower.



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ArleninOr

02-01-2008 17:56:12




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 Re: hay baler price for WD in reply to Guyzoo, 02-01-2008 14:38:22  
Some where around $15,000 to $20,000 Don't think that you can justify that much if only baling 1000 bales a year Try to find a good 336 or 338 JD or 315/320 NH both good balers



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Deb McKay

03-12-2008 14:32:27




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 Re: hay baler price for WD in reply to ArleninOr, 02-01-2008 17:56:12  
We have a "spare" NH 315/70 baler that we'd be willing to sell; but it needs work. Where are you located? We're in south-central MN. Last year it broke a timing chain and sent the plunger thru something it wasn't supposed to! (fingers or needles, I can't remember what they're called)... hopefully nothing else wrong. Husband just haven't had time to fix and won't for some time... Steel is going for 50 cents/lb here (recycle value). Can't bear to just recycle it cuz it still has lotsa life if we'd (or somebody!) could just fix it. Willing to sell it broke if you're willing to spend the time to fix. If not, we hope to repair it winter 2008-9 and sell spring 2009. Worked very well for us until this "accident!"

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El Toro

02-01-2008 16:47:37




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 Re: hay baler price for WD in reply to Guyzoo, 02-01-2008 14:38:22  
Here's a 2004 NH 565 baler that sold for $10500.00. Here's the web site, call your local NH dealer for a price on a new baler. Hal

http://www.grainfarmer.com/nh-565-baler-05.html



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old

02-01-2008 15:28:21




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 Re: hay baler price for WD in reply to Guyzoo, 02-01-2008 14:38:22  
Brand new you better have deep pockets. Last time I saw the price of one it was over $10,000. You should be able to find a tractor dealer that has a good used one and if the dealer is any good they will give you some sort of warranty on it and cost you about 1/3 of a new one if not less then that

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377

02-01-2008 14:55:21




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 Re: hay baler price for WD in reply to Guyzoo, 02-01-2008 14:38:22  
Brand new or new to you? Quite a price difference. New Holland makes a good baler along with JD.



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Guyzoo

02-01-2008 15:36:59




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 Re: hay baler price for WD in reply to 377, 02-01-2008 14:55:21  
Hi, Thanks for your reply, I am looking for a brand new baler from the factory. I would prefer a new holland and I am only doing about a thousand bales a year so I would probably chose the smallest baler that they made. That would be the model 565 baler. I don,t want an exact price just an approximative price. thanks a lot



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gary tomaszewski

02-02-2008 07:53:06




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 Re: hay baler price for WD in reply to Guyzoo, 02-01-2008 15:36:59  
Kind of overkill for 1000 bales IMO, plus not a great tracor for baling, no live pto, power steering and 50+ years. Only my idea but find an older (your choice) and an operators manual, repair now, then go bale. If you don't have the skills to rebuild an older model, you most likely think a new will be trouble free,WRONG. Balers are finicky about adjustments.



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