Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Attention Forum Users: On the 28th of December 2023 at 9:00am Central Time, we will be taking the forums down for maintenance while we prepare the new forums for your use. Please click here for more information.

Allis Chalmers Discussion Forum
:

AIR CONDITION RECHARGE

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Phil H

02-01-2008 14:34:29




Report to Moderator

I have a 1977 AC 7060 with Air Cond. but it needs to be recharged. I"m pretty sure it used the Old Freon 12 refrigerant. Is there something on the market today that replaces the F12 without needing to change the compressor,hoses,expansion valve, etc.




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
DARDAN

02-09-2008 00:04:02




Report to Moderator
 Re: AIR CONDITION RECHARGE in reply to Phil H, 02-01-2008 14:34:29  
You might want to check out 'hydrocarbon refrigerants', just Google it.
Hydrocarbon refrigerants do not require certification to buy and apply, are more effiecent, compatible with petroleum oil(type used with R12), more system friendly than chloronated refrigerrants(don't turn acidic when exposed to moisture, and are a lot less prone to leaks. They are also more 'Earth friendly' than R134. They are compatible with hose and seal rubbers found on R12 systems.
And NO, I do not have any stake whatsoever in the product.
Just a thought.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
wddave

02-02-2008 16:48:32




Report to Moderator
 Re: AIR CONDITION RECHARGE in reply to Phil H, 02-01-2008 14:34:29  
There is a kit that has the adapters, the R134 and ester oil included. The kit also has the hose and gauge for putting the R134 in. If your system is OK just low on R12 freon have it evacuated and refill using the kit. The old oil will not mix with the R134 and will just lay in the bottom. The ester oil will mix with the 134 and work just fine. Did that with a S10 pickup several years ago and it still works.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
RENE;S

02-02-2008 03:52:39




Report to Moderator
 Re: AIR CONDITION RECHARGE in reply to Phil H, 02-01-2008 14:34:29  
WE CAN STILL BUY A PRODUCT CALLED FREEZE 12 DIRECT REPLACMENT AT LOCAL WAREHOUSES IN KY. IT IS A LITTLE HIGHER BUT YOU USE LESS. RENE'



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Old Ford Mechanic

02-01-2008 19:59:30




Report to Moderator
 Re: AIR CONDITION RECHARGE in reply to Phil H, 02-01-2008 14:34:29  
Phil,you need a kit that has the adapters from the old R12 freon to the new 134A type freon.The adapters attach to the old schrader type fittings that you already have.Then you will need a set of guages and hoses that are compatible to these new adapters to install the new 134A freon and oil charge.Also you should change out all the rubber hose's and the dryer receiver for new ones before you do the conversion.The rubber hose only lasts for a few years on any AC system before the refridgerant causes it to start coming apart.This causes leaks and could contaminate the system.Also the dessicant in the dryer will stop wicking moisture from the system after awhile,because of age also.Also any rubber O-rings used for seals should be replaced before recharging the system.The dryer is a must for all conversions.Also keep in mind that only 80% of the original charge should be replaced with 134A refridgerant.I recommend letting a qualified AC technican perform or assist you with this conversion.With a system this old, a lot of experience will be required.You also might look for some instruction material on this conversion.Older AC systems work well if you do the upgrades i mentioned and don't overfill with new refridgerant.However all leaks and potential for leaks along with system lubrication need to be addressed.In most cases the compressor and most componets other than the dryer and the old hose's can be retained.A good manual detailing an AC system and its componets and how it works could be helpful to you.Any Autoparts store should have one of these publications.They are usually titled AC SERVICE AND REPAIR or something similar and are located with the other service manual displays in the store.A copy should also describe the steps to do your conversion.I have one that is several years old that came from Autozone i believe.Good luck.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
cadet trooper

02-02-2008 14:14:59




Report to Moderator
 Re: AIR CONDITION RECHARGE in reply to Old Ford Mechanic, 02-01-2008 19:59:30  
OFM, I couldn't have said it better myself Hah! It's like everything else in this world today it's getting too technical for most people. I took a couple courses about thirty years ago and helped some neighbors but no pay of course until the new laws came out now I've got two sets of gauges a vacuum pump and a leak detector gathering dust in the garage. Most everything I've got now is 134a from the factory. I did think of a good point though and that is when someone looks at a used tractor or combine they need to think about the AC. Good answer.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
ak matt

02-01-2008 19:07:09




Report to Moderator
 Re: AIR CONDITION RECHARGE in reply to Phil H, 02-01-2008 14:34:29  
i did it on my 93 f150 when a bearing in the compressor froze, got a new compressor at the wrecking yard, stopped at napa on the way home got the flush, the oil and the refrigerant.

they make a kit with most everything you need from fittings to the pressure gauges to the flush, even a thermometer to see how cold your air is. my kit cost about 80 bucks, not to bad. just read the destructions and it sould'nt take to long. good luck!

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
cadet trooper

02-01-2008 15:08:37




Report to Moderator
 Re: AIR CONDITION RECHARGE in reply to Phil H, 02-01-2008 14:34:29  
My understanding according to my BIL and other people there is a 134a kit you can buy at your local auto parts store and make the change. I"m sure some others on here have done it.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy