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02-01-2008 08:06:58

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I have a WD turned around backwards/ loader. I can not see any binding on the PTO lever. I live in a cold part of the US so nothing works as great as in warm weather it seems. I drained all oil and replaced it with 80-90 weight oil. It does not apear that the lever is going over center when I shut it off. If I crawl under the tractor--because oil tanks and fuel tanks were in the way after modification, I just tap the lever up a little and then it works sweet as can be. Yet when I shut the PTO off I have to go under the tractor and start all over again. I am carefull when shutting it off to only as far as I just have to too make the PTO stop.

I would assume there is some wear on a shaft or something, just need a few suggestions before I start a cussin again.

Thanks everyone.

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stu (ON)

02-01-2008 11:29:30

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 Re: WD PTO HARD TO ENGAGE in reply to NE IA, 02-01-2008 08:06:58  
A simple-minded response from me. On the couple of occasions that I had to work on the pto on my WD last summer, I always ended up questioning if I had the pto shifter rod inserted the right way into the shifter lever. I always wanted to have it point out so the I could get the cotter pin in easily. But, the manual shows that it goes the other way; and I think that it is correct for the proper shifter rod clearance.

I also had a situation where the pto was a little too hard to engage for my liking. This was after replacing some pto bearings & gears due to brush hog abuse. If your tractor has ever had any gears replaced, the service manual cautions: "If clearance between idler gear and intermediate gear is less than .004" backlash, use two gaskets (between pto housing & torque tube)". I now have a thicker gasket installed & the pto engages easier, but I don't know how to measure the backlash.

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02-01-2008 12:14:56

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 Re: WD PTO HARD TO ENGAGE in reply to stu (ON), 02-01-2008 11:29:30  
I should have mentioned this tractor probably got less than 1 hr pto work for the last thirty years each year till about three years ago. Since it was turned around backwards to make a loader tractor the PTO was seldom if ever used. It worked for the last three years or so since I made a post hole digger for it, and i must say it went in and out perfect. Then it started to lock once in a great while, and has just gotten worse untill the point now when it is evey time.

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stu (ON)

02-01-2008 14:13:58

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 Re: WD PTO HARD TO ENGAGE in reply to NE IA, 02-01-2008 12:14:56  
One other thing that I have noticed, especially on some early WD's with the smaller & lighter pto housing & shift lever is that the set screw backs out, or is even sheared off. Just back that set screw out and make sure that it is still centered over the dimple where it belongs in order to properly locate the shifter lever.

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02-01-2008 20:51:06

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 Re: WD PTO HARD TO ENGAGE in reply to stu (ON), 02-01-2008 14:13:58  
Thanks I will try that, I could have done that today, but got side tracked. Thank You for your suggestion, maybe Sunday I will get a little time.

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