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Glenn F.

01-17-2008 10:14:10




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Was there such a tractor?

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Darrell, Jr. (MN)

01-20-2008 20:45:30




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to Glenn F., 01-17-2008 10:14:10  
Yes there was a 190XT gas. We have one now and just sold another last year, and I have seen many others. There was 5 different engine configurations used in the 190's over it's production run. The 190 gas used the G2500 265ci engine, the 190 diesel used the 2800 301ci engine non turbocharged, the 190XT gas used the G2800 301ci engine, the 190XT LPG used the G2800LP 301ci engine, and the 190XT diesel used the 2900 301ci turbocharged engine. All the 301's were the the same block.

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cowdoc

01-28-2008 18:39:14




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to Darrell, Jr. (MN), 01-20-2008 20:45:30  
I have a 1965 190XT diesel that I am selling. I"m not a tractor guy so I"m not sure how to answer peoples questions when they ask how many remotes it has. Do they mean hydraulic hook-ups? I"d appreciate any help you could give me.



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J.C.in AZ.

01-18-2008 14:23:52




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to Glenn F., 01-17-2008 10:14:10  
I bought a 190 gas in 1966.It was not an "XT". Some will say that AC labeled later 190's as XT but the only XT I ever saw was a Diesel and I saw several of them. My opinion is there was not an 190 XT "Gas",but ???



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acdave

01-18-2008 09:03:04




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to Glenn F., 01-17-2008 10:14:10  
when did ac go to the heavy rear end in the 190 xt just wondered



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terroll

01-29-2008 05:58:10




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to acdave, 01-18-2008 09:03:04  
i believe 1967 or1968 model 190xt had the up-dated rear-end, if you have access to serial number breaks all of the 190xt seriesIII had updated rear-ends.



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Jack a

01-18-2008 04:20:12




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to Glenn F., 01-17-2008 10:14:10  
Dad has had one since 1977. Retired now but on the list for a restore some day. It was a good tractor for him but did have a drinking problem when compared to a diesel. Rebuilt the engine after 12,000 hrs. The only thing that went wrong with the rear end was an axle bearing about a month after I hit a hole in the hay field so hard I thought I broke my neck when I hit the cab ceiling. I was moving round bales in road gear and a tile line developed a hole in the ground. I slowed way down after that. It is a 1965 model so it still has the light rear end.

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mark

01-17-2008 12:09:39




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to Glenn F., 01-17-2008 10:14:10  
I know a man that has one. he said it WAS very stout....just set a barrel of gas at each end of the field when plowing...hehehe! he also said they couldn"t keep rear ends in it. when they finally parked it...the teeth on the ring gear were sharp as razors. This man is a diesel mechanic (35 years) for the local CAT dealership and surely knows heavy equipment and he says every time he set the rear ends up like the book called for...shimmed as per directions....yet, the 190 ate them. he has 6 WD45"s sitting there as well...all ragged out.

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John (MO)

01-17-2008 13:24:47




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to mark, 01-17-2008 12:09:39  
Nebraska tests list 436 gas tractors/crawlers tested. 142 tested more fuel effecient than the 190XT while 293 were less fuel effecient. The 190XT is 1 tractor above the Ford 8N in fuel effeciency and 1 tractor below the IH 350. It is however not as effecient at the D-14, WD45, C, D19, D17, D15, 175, D12, 170 and D10, but it beat the 180, CA, straight 190, WD, B, WC, G, U, and some others. Those tests would have been done with the tractors producing maximum horse power of course. So, even though way way less fuel effecient, it took a lot less gas for the G to make 10.33 hp than it did for the 190XT to make 89.53

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mark

01-17-2008 15:00:28




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to John (MO), 01-17-2008 13:24:47  
Exactly! When you have a barn full of horses....you have to feed them:).



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John (MO)

01-17-2008 10:50:21




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to Glenn F., 01-17-2008 10:14:10  
Course there were. Any 190 gas tractor with the 301 engine is an XT model, the straight 190 gas tractors had the 265 engine. Don't know the exact numbers but 190XT gas tractors were made from 1965 thru 1971. Nebraska test #929, #928 was the straight 190 gas tractor with the 265 engine.



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1chicken

01-17-2008 10:36:03




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to Glenn F., 01-17-2008 10:14:10  
there was a 190 xt gas ,and also a propane



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kj(seil)

01-19-2008 06:26:48




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to 1chicken, 01-17-2008 10:36:03  
Grandpa had a propane 190XT



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old

01-17-2008 10:32:57




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to Glenn F., 01-17-2008 10:14:10  
From what I understand the XT means it has a turbo and the gas ones didn't have that from what I know. So if I'm correct it would not be a XT190 but a 190. Of course I might not be correct on this and my manual doesn't tell me for sure



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Joe(TX)

01-18-2008 05:18:59




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to old, 01-17-2008 10:32:57  
XT did not stand for anything. it was just part Just like 190 does not stand for anything.
Just part of the model designation



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cadet trooper

01-17-2008 15:25:05




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to old, 01-17-2008 10:32:57  
Hi Old, I got corrected with egg on my face because someone corrected me on that by Texas guy or somethin like that and I bristled but I looked it up and the XT190 gas and propane was available which someone already said with the 301 the 190 was a 265 in the gas version only so I crawled under the porch and licked my wounds and moved on :-< man, that hurt. I guess the XT stood for extra torque and I had to laugh when I read the rated PTO hp at 93 for an XT190 diesel because when we had our dealership every XT190 diesel that passed over our dyno I never saw one below 120 at rated rpm and we had one that bent the tractors pto shaft at 147 and the customer just laughed because me thinks he had been in the fuel screw and said I never use the pto anyway he later traded it for a 7020 and we wound up using it as a backup tractor pulling an 18' Krause disc with no problems I bet you could have shaved with the bull gear teeth on that one it was a 1968 model.

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Old Allis Mechanic

01-17-2008 15:38:32




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to cadet trooper, 01-17-2008 15:25:05  
I was knee deep in repairing 190s when they were new from the factory and not a one, EVER dynoed 120 hp with out being mucked with!



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cadet trooper

01-17-2008 16:00:00




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 Re: XT190 Gas? in reply to Old Allis Mechanic, 01-17-2008 15:38:32  
I agree with that and it sure wasn't us so somebody was tampering because we came along way after the 190XT era. Talking to some AC field techs at different seminars they seemed to blame the Roosa-Master pumps because of its design. Don't know I'm not a diesel mechanic.



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