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D-17

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flamegunrh

01-05-2008 13:34:00




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I just brought my '67 17 home to the farm today I am elated ,however I have some questions?I have one remote hyd. outlet above 3 point,I am thinking I need 2(lift arm&bucket)for loader ops,any suggestions for reasonable cash outlay per trouble free use?




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JMS/.MN

01-05-2008 17:45:18




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 Re: D-17 in reply to flamegunrh, 01-05-2008 13:34:00  
If it"s a "67, is it a Series IV? They had multiple hydraulics available, usually three levers. You could run one and two-way cylinders with that setup. Your serial number should be 75001 or above to make it a Series IV. Otherwise you need to add valves and a return line to get two-way hyd on the earlier series.



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flamegunrh

01-05-2008 19:01:15




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 Re: D-17 in reply to JMS/.MN, 01-05-2008 17:45:18  
Yea I hollered before I was hurt .I got a 866xx# so it has hydraulics I need to get some manuals so as to be intelligent on this .Got some recommendations for best manuals to have, I figure a parts catalogue,shop manual, and a operator. what is the best information wise?



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Skyhighballoon(MO)

01-06-2008 17:27:16




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 Re: D-17 in reply to flamegunrh, 01-05-2008 19:01:15  
The 2nd remote hydraulics was optional on a Series IV. You have split the valve stack under right side control console and add another spool to get the 2nd remote. I priced one from Cook Tractor in Clinton, MO in 2006 and I think it was $350 for the valve, lines and long bolts. No sure if that included the control lever/linkage. Quite a bit of stuff to take off to get at it to do the work. The valve stacks are the same on a 170/175/180/185 so those hydraulic parts are not too hard to find used from the salvage yards. Seal kits and some other small internal parts are also still available from AGCO.

As far as manuals go, JMS is right on with the original AC operator's manual and an IT shop manual. I also have a parts manual and I find those to be extremely helpful, sometimes more than a shop manual. Don't buy the current D17 shop manual from AGCO, it's a kludged together edit of the shop manuals for all four series and they left out almost all the specific stuff for the extensive changes in the Series IV. It's a waste of money. If you can find an original ALLIS shop manual printed back in the 60's, that would be great but they are hard to find.

Good luck with your Series IV, probably the best utility tractor Allis ever made. I have one too. Mike

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JMS/.MN

01-06-2008 12:20:30




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 Re: D-17 in reply to flamegunrh, 01-05-2008 19:01:15  
Operator manual is the basic must have for anyone with a tractor for ID of controls, location of fill and drain plugs, basic lube and maintenance info. I&T manual AC-17 handles the shop work. Don"t know if the factory shop manual is better- haven"t seen one. Parts manual is nice when ordering parts by phone or on-line, but since I have about 10 dealers within 30 miles, I don"t have parts books for all units. Shop manual shows the exploded views, and we have some really good partsmen, so very seldom there is any difficulty in describing what I need.

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