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Allis C, 6 to 12 volt

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Collin john

01-04-2008 14:20:14




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I am wanting to convert an Allis Chalmers C from 6 to 12 volt system. I have a 12 volt single pole alternator and a 12 volt voltage regulator off of another tractor. What else do I need to change out? Is the positive ground a issue when going to a alternator? Wiring diagram would be great. Any help would be much appreciated.




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Collin john

01-05-2008 05:42:07




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 Re: Allis C, 6 to 12 volt in reply to Collin john, 01-04-2008 14:20:14  
Thanks to all. I will print this off and I should be in good shape.



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Mike in Ohio

01-04-2008 19:13:39




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 Re: Allis C, 6 to 12 volt in reply to Collin john, 01-04-2008 14:20:14  
Collin, go into the archives and search "12 volt conversion", a guy by the name of duey has several posts that show the diagrams for this. Does your c have a magneto or a distributer. If it has a mag you don't need to worry about the coil/distributer just the battery and amp meter. Good luck you will be glad you did this. Mike



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steve(ill)

01-04-2008 18:31:46




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 Re: Allis C, 6 to 12 volt in reply to Collin john, 01-04-2008 14:20:14  
hillbilly has the right drawing. that is a DELCO standard alternator made from 1975-95. It has an internal voltage regulator and used on all chevy-and other GM cars. If you need a new one, go to Auto Zone and tell them 1975 C10 pickup. Dont get stuck with the older alternator that needs a voltage regulator seperate.



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John T

01-04-2008 15:46:54




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 Re: Allis C, 6 to 12 volt in reply to Collin john, 01-04-2008 14:20:14  
John, almost alllll lll alternators require NEGATIVE ground so if at Pos ground now you MUST convert. Heres how to convert from 6 to 12 volts and from Pos to Neg ground and wire a Neg ground alternator.....

1) If its a one wire unit it output wires to the Load (NOT battery/starter) side of the ammeter. Thats the same ammeter terminal that also supplies voltage for lights and ignition switches. I use 10 Gauge wire for that. The circuit is the one that used to wire from the BAT terminal on a Voltage Regulator or Cutout Relay up to the ammmeter, but I usually replace it with a larger 10 gauge wire.

2) You CANT use any generator type Voltage Regulator, many Alternators have their own built in regulator a few an external, and most one wires are built in regulators.

3) If its a coil ignition you must EITHER add an external voltage dropping (12 to 6) series ballast resistor after the ignition switch and before the old 6 volt coil orrrrr rrrr else use a full true 12 v coil no ballast required.

4) Swap coil polarity so + is from switch and - wires to distributor.

5) Swap ammeter leads or else it will read bass ackwards.

6) You can use the existing 6 volt starter.

7) Change light bulbs to 12 volts

John T

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hillbillyOH

01-04-2008 15:06:54




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 Re: Allis C, 6 to 12 volt in reply to Collin john, 01-04-2008 14:20:14  
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Here's the diagram that I used.



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