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Posted by Steve - IN on February 20, 2003 at 19:38:22 from (12.222.17.160):
In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Solution for terrorist problem posted by Damon on February 20, 2003 at 17:50:48:
Damon,
Hindsight is always 20/20, and the future is shrouded in mist. The stuff of Greek mythology. At the time a lot of Americans were well isolated by a couple of oceans and didn't want WW 1 or 2. Took things like the Lusitania and Pearl Harbor to galvanize us. So we've kicked most of those crazies out of Afghanistan. Where are they going? Iran and Iraq and Pakistan, most likely. They will or have gotten support there. That's a connection. If we're in Iraq, it's easy to use a big lever on Iran to change the way things unfold. I'm of the opinion that more than a few terrorist plots have been spawned or somehow supported in those two countries. The people of Iraq probably won't suffer any more or less whatever we do. We've never gassed Iraqis' - Saddam has. You know they spend thousands, make that millions, of our tax dollars to wage a precision war - where, at great extra expense, the goal it to only hit military targets. If we were half as bad as the Noam Chomsky poster above claims, the place would have been huge a parking lot a long time ago. A lot of people were worried that Reagan would destabilize our relations with the Soviets. What Soviets? The Gipper spent them under the table. All gone now. That wall in Berlin he got everybody so upset about when he wanted it torn down -- it did get torn down. We destabilized all of Eastern Europe at the time -- but they seem to be generally better off for the experience. All the while there were people moaning that he's gonna start WW3. Most of us generally don't really want to go into any kind of fight. At the time, I thought going into the Balkans was stupid for us. Why couldn't the Europeans take care of it? Heard a quote from someone there recently (I don't know where, at the time we called it the wars between the unpronounceables versus the unspellables). The person said if they'd relied on the Europeans to solve the problem - they'd still be debating and we (maybe he was on the unspellable side) would all be dead. Point is, somebody needs to do something from time to time -- Daladier and Chamberlain at Munich. If those two had stood up, and this is after the Kristallnacht and the Rheinland, we might not have had WW2, or it would have been a lot less destructive. We've gone from a world of mutually assured destruction between us and the Soviets to a world where a band of crazies want to assure our destruction - and don't mind if their own destruction results from their efforts. In my view the idea of "containment" makes more of that lunacy fester, and it's better dealt with by being over there than having to fight them in the streets here. Sure, we'll destabilize the place. If Iraq were to become a prosperous and free country - the whole region would want to do exactly the same thing -- a lot of heads would roll, and maybe the crazies who want to live in the 8th century would be overwhelmed by those who see the benefits of the 21st century. ...and all that is probably more opinions than you ever wanted to hear from some guy in the middle of North America -- where it's cold and the ground is covered with snow. Steve
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