Posted by Dave41A on May 22, 2021 at 18:40:20 from (71.161.67.127):
In Reply to: Are you human? posted by showcrop on May 22, 2021 at 16:22:31:
As with most questions of the type, the answer is 'it depends.' My experience has been that the most recent times I have bought new and utilized the dealer for all the maintenance, the dealer has NOT honored the warranty--claiming it was my problem or not a defect of material or workmanship. Further, the work that the dealer has done has been beyond disappointing--in some cases their incompetence has lead to the actual problem occurring. This has been with a recently purchased motor vehicle and with farm/home equipment. I can give specific examples if anyone is interested.
For fluids, recall that even the low end today likely exceeds the specification for anything made in the past. My Gas tractors are both 1941's, built to run on ~70 octane gas if lucky. Putting modern premium in them makes no sense at all. Oils are the same way. If a modern oil--even a no-name brand--is made to modern API and SAE specifications, it will exceed the performance of anything available in 1941.
There are folks who swear by such-a-such brand of oil having special additives that make it work better. Of course the manufacturers want you to believe this--and it is human nature to do so. There is no way to prove or disprove this on an *individual* basis as the person who is a stickler about oil brand is probably also a stickler about maintenance hour intervals and other maintenance. The person who doesn't care about the brand is less likely to be a stickler about the maintenance intervals, so of course will have a worse experience. This is assuming that usage patterns are the same as well. You cannot compare a parade tractor that gets full synthetic oil changes every 20 hours to a work machine--instead, you would need two identical machines, with identical histories, the same operator, the same use conditions, and the same maintenance intervals, to truly compare a no-name oil to a brand-name. I know of no individual with the resources to do this.
However, oil variations has been studied by third-party labs and the conclusion is that the brand of oil does NOT matter as long as it meets the specification. Link provided (link to original data in the article is unfortunately a dead link).
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