Re: Peoples attitudes are funny.....

Posted by NCWayne on December 14, 2012 at 18:54:59 from (69.40.232.132):

In Reply to: Re: Peoples attitudes are funny..... posted by Traditional Farmer on December 14, 2012 at 05:44:11:

Not necessarily a negative response, just a different attitude than I am used to dealing with.

As far as the whole 'we're in this together' deal, your way off track. I don't know what you do for a living, so you may not realize it, but nowdays many, many major manufacturers have a 'competetor' making something for them. For example, Deere and Hitachi compete with their excavators, but a Hitachi excavator is made by Deere. Deere and Leibherr compete with their track loaders but Leibherr makes all of them. Cat handles cranes for Linkbelt but their excavators still compete with Linkbelt excavators. CAT owns Perkins engines and for the smaller diesels, market them under both name brands, with only slight differences, if any. For instance the 3054 CAT is sold as a CAT, is yellow, and has CAT all over it, but open it up and nearly every part has Perkins on it. Years back, I believe it was CAT and Komatsu both that had another mfg making forklifts for them. Identical machines but with different paint schemes, and made by a third party who was also a competetor in another sector of the industry. At one point I know CAT made parts for other mfgs for use on equipment that mfg made that competed with the same type CAT equipment. Ford used to have othr mfgs make tractors for them that were nearly identical to the same ones the company made for themslves. Heck Deere did the basically the same thing making their tractors with Yanmar engines while Yanmar made their own tractor to compete.

Then, because of guys (the competeror) like me that work on, and keep the older equipment running (that the dealerships have NO desire to work on themselves) companies like CAT came up with their CAT Classic parts line. It's sold in a CAT box, made by whomever, and makes them money on sales for machines they would otherwise lose to an aftermarket company.

Then look at the truck industry. For years CAT and IH competed with their engines for the heavy truck market. Now CAT has Navistar (the old IH) making engines for CAT's trucks that are, or were, based on a CAT design.

Now look at the filter market. WIX makes filters for several major companies and markets the same filter under several name brands. Used to be someone that wouldn't buy a Donaldson filter would buy one from CAT, all the while Donaldson made CAT's filters.

One step further, look at tires. It's been awhile since I looked at a listing of tire mfgs, but out of hundereds of tire 'name brands' there were only a handful of actual mfgs making all of them.

Ultimately in todays 'world economy' everyone has to work together to make money. Granted very few of them are going to offer up a true trade secret such as the reciepe for their burger sauce to the other burger joint, you'd be suprised how many there are out there like CAT working with Navistar on a CAT based, Navistar branded engine, along with many others working together to come up with the latest and greatest design that they can't affored to do alone.

Basically what it all comes down to in a world economy we are all in this together, wether we like it or not.

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