Posted by Billy NY on May 21, 2012 at 08:59:11 from (67.248.100.3):
In Reply to: Craigs List Labor posted by John T on May 21, 2012 at 07:11:59:
Lowest responsible bid, key word "responsible" !
Lowest bid is not always, matter of fact, usually never the best bid, funny how each of them varied, but the guy with a tape measure, pencil, paper, camera etc. takes the time get the details gets the job, Mr. dually could have done that, so could the other guy, just not smart enough, yet its common sense when you are in that business.
Even a small job, most owners should be able to figure a scope of work for what needs to be done, have the bidders do their thing and then review each bid to make sure it complies with what you want done, and within a price range. Its not all that difficult to visualize, 1 day 2 guys, or 1 week 3 guys or what have you for labor, to get an idea before hand, so when that curve ball bid, that has an unbalanced $10,000 extra in it can be identified and avoided. Its also good for an owner to do this exercise of labor to see if a bidder made a mistake and left something out. Some jobs are more complicated, harder to price, but an owner who takes a close look and can do his/her own "engineers estimate" for both labor and materials, is well ahead of the game when it comes time to write a scope of work, and have it bid. Once bid and you are close to selecting, then you can pre-qualify the contractor, check their insurance certificate, check their other completed jobs, references etc. prior to awarding the contract. Owner provide materials can be a good thing, contractor can't mark up the materials, and there is no excuse as to material being on the job, but said owner does need to make sure all materials are their and quantities, quality etc. is acceptable. Payment is best done by percentage of completion on larger jobs, and or substantial completion on smaller ones, never pay up front, never pay for materials until they are checked, verified, accepted and on site, period.
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