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Re: Thin stand of hay! options?


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Posted by paul on June 27, 2011 at 19:54:55 from (66.44.132.207):

In Reply to: Thin stand of hay! options? posted by Dave from MN on June 27, 2011 at 08:24:14:

I think I got a little lost....

Is this a new seeding of grasses next to your alfalfa field, and it is _only_ seeded to grass no legumes?

A new seeding of grass looks real weak the first year, let the stuff grow, maybe go to seed, and it will be a good grass patch next year.

If the ph is low, then the grass can't suck up the nutrients; you need to get the ph right, fertilizer won't help if the ph is wrong - low ph and the acid in the siol binds the N,P,K, and micros to the soil particals, the roots can't pry them loose.

If there is no clover or alfalfa mix with it, then it will run out of N real badly, esp in lighter soils. Grass needs N, and lots of it, to keep productiove. My low ground, 8% organic matter, gets enough N off of what accumulates, but if you are in sandy soils, you need to spoongfeed the N to the grasses.

If there is _no_ alfalfa in this grass, I's conside ripping it up, add lime & P & K and put in alfalfa in mid August. Some grasses will come back, and you should have a nice mixed field come next summer. Csn't do that if any alfalfa is there now tho, adult alfalfa kills it's own seedlings in a 1 - 2 foot circle, that toxin is active for a good 3 months (of good weather, not over winter!) even after the adults are killed.

Overseeding clover into the weak hay might be an option, but very hard to time right and catch rains to make the clover go, might end up seeing more of the clover sprout next year than this, but it will do it;s thing when it gets there.

Adding ryegrass or oats is good for getting another cutting or so off of it. Maybe getting a little late for this....

If something else is going on, sorry I didn't quite understand.

--->Paul


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