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Re: Farmall m is a professional starter button burner upper


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Posted by Janicholson on January 22, 2012 at 20:30:05 from (67.72.98.45):

In Reply to: Farmall m is a professional starter button burner upper posted by Aaron Spears on January 22, 2012 at 17:59:15:

The First thing is to determine what is causing
the starter to stop. If there is a short, or bad
bushings in the starter motor, it will drag on the
field windings and draw massive current.
I believe the starter needs to be rebuilt with new
bushings, new (and better design) drive pinion,
new brushes, and a turned commutator.
Any good auto electric shop can do it and do it
well.
The second issue is the extra wire on the starter
motor stud. That wire probably goes to the coil.
It is likely to be a resistor bypass. This allows
the coil to operate on starting voltage while
cranking. If the starter motor is dragging, the
engine would start but not have enough juice to
make the ignition work just as the starter switch
is released. Thus the start and stop situation.
It is needed. The ballast resistor is near the
coil (if it has one). The wire from the starter
should attach to the coil side of the resistor,
and must have a diode in it to prevent voltage
from going backwards to the starter from the
ignition.
The switches are garbage I do not think anyone
here has found a good source of good switches yet.
If it were mine I would use a starter relay out of
a 12v ford from 1962) connect it so it gets full
battery voltage directly to the terminal near the
S small terminal. Hook the S terminal to a #12
wire going to the existing (smoking) starter
button, and hook the other Smoking switch button
to the Battery Positive with a #12 wire. (this
just uses the poor switch for low current control
of the Ford relay. The I terminal of the relay
can be hooked up directly to the coil input
terminal bypassing the resistor without the diode
(no feedback possible).
The last terminal (big) goes to the starter stud.
(the Small wire there is no longer needed)

If your alternator is a three wire setup, it
should be left alone (but tested)
If it is a one wire setup, or if that pesky wire
goes to the alternator. Let us know and we will
get that operating correctly as well.
Jim


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