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Re: OT: Draft control and the death of the trailer plow


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Posted by karl f on March 04, 2008 at 19:28:34 from (172.133.207.120):

In Reply to: OT: Draft control and the death of the trailer plow posted by Re: 460 is a knocking... on March 03, 2008 at 05:43:40:


504-2 said: (quoted from post at 20:01:01 03/03/08) I had a Massey service engineer tell me that if everything was set on a 1130 that the front wheels should just float across the ground.


my dad's farming stories from back in the day include the MM UTU's front hovering over the ground on a 4-14 JD pulltype til you pull the rope at the end. and a 3 ft blue flame above the muffler, or is it 4 ft now...

my dad and uncle have never plowed with draft control on. get stuck alot, overheat trannies (the ford 5000), etc.

seems to me every operator manual description of some type of draft system say that the arms will lift slightly in response to conditions and the tendency will be to transfer the load to the rear wheels. if the arms lift the implement so you can see it's lifted and the depth changes, then you are adjusted or set up wrong as it is over correcting. 90% of the 70s/earlier methods/manual quotes and what is encountered on this forum is for 2wd tractors with 70/30% rear favored weight, not 60/40 or 50/50 on an mfwd. and the equipment types we use today are not as simple as moldboard plowing (draft) vs mowers (position only). that leads to another issue; people using draft control too often when position is the correct choice. example: on land semi mounts should be used in position control only. other equipment types are mentioned ad nauseum in operators manuals both for tractors and the implements. in fact, the implement manual is the best resource to guide you whether you should use draft sensing or not. the tractor manual just gives you the basic examples, which may have exceptions because of your implement's design.

some thoughts for you

karl f


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