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3010JD

07-28-2006 14:49:12




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Just plowed an old seeding of alfalfa. Mostly grass and weeds. The seeding was about 8years old. I want to plant rye for the straw and seed new alfalfa this fall. Question is will the old seeding kill the new? Would realy like to not plow again just to get it reseeded. corn not an option. Any thoughts on this?




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Allan In NE

07-30-2006 13:56:05




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 Re: alfalfa in reply to 3010JD, 07-28-2006 14:49:12  
If you plowed it under good, the toxicity disappears very rapidly; usually in one month.

Like the other fellas said, most wait a year or even rotate a season, but ya should be okay.

Allan



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TGIN

07-31-2006 04:21:46




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 Re: alfalfa in reply to Allan In NE, 07-30-2006 13:56:05  
I like waiting getting another crop in there for a yr. so I have two shots at working the weeds over and getting the field in good shape on top of the toxicity problem . As you said I was wandering if things were differant from your dry area to our wetter here in Indiana . Last I did I had it burned down by the pros in the fall and there was still a few plants out there when I plowed it the next spring .

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paul

07-30-2006 20:42:53




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 Re: alfalfa in reply to Allan In NE, 07-30-2006 13:56:05  
I've had this discussion with a fellow from Texas - seems the farther south one is, and drier, the less effect of the auto-toxic. He says his alfalfa regularly reseeds itself in it's own field.

While up here in MN there very much is a srong toxic effect.

As here, some folks say a month or 2; others say a whole season.

The pros around here say at least 3 months of good growing type weather. But the trick is you need all the alfalfa crowns _dead_ for the 3 months, typically alfalfa is hard to kill & 10% or so will live on - causing problems.

I've always waited a year or 2 myself, for the price of alfalfa seed, I would hate to push it. Like to use up the N, & get the P & K back in balance anyhow.

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TGIN

07-30-2006 05:03:44




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 Re: alfalfa in reply to 3010JD, 07-28-2006 14:49:12  
Should wait a year . Plant wheat this fall then back to alfalfa next fall or the next spring . Or if you need hay plant sorgum-sudan next spring .



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paul

07-28-2006 22:40:52




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 Re: alfalfa in reply to 3010JD, 07-28-2006 14:49:12  
Where I live, we are starting to get pretty close to fall already????

I've heard there should be at least 3 months of 'good growing weather' between the last living alfalfa & a new seeding. Sometimes it won't, but many times the auto-toxicity will cause problems if you try to rush that.

--->Paul



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hayray

07-29-2006 05:51:24




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 Re: alfalfa in reply to paul, 07-28-2006 22:40:52  
Paul,

actually it is recommended to be one year between seedings. There was just an article in progressive haygrower about this issue and it was shown that sometimes there were varying results and some ideas about soil types, leaching and so forth. But the bottom line is that to be safe wait a year. I have had bad results in side by side comparisons with new fields even after a fall burn down, chisel plow and then a spring seeding the following spring.

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hayray

07-28-2006 19:56:46




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 Re: alfalfa in reply to 3010JD, 07-28-2006 14:49:12  
I would say most likely your new seeding will turn out like crap, always have when I did it that way, no comparison between a new field and re-seeded field - more weeds, lower productivity and so forth. Alternate with another legume i.e. medium red clover or birdsfoot trefoil if you are more northerly - works great for me.



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Lance R.

07-29-2006 08:40:55




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 Re: alfalfa in reply to hayray, 07-28-2006 19:56:46  
I agree. I tried it this year after a fall burn down and then after 45 days I plowed it and there are still a lot of weeds in my new alfalfa.



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