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1945 A

10-20-2005 06:29:55




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Okay, a question from a "rookie" farmer, so bear with me.
My question concerns the use of lime---if you spread it, when"s the best time? What are indications that it"s needed? I"m just putting in a few food plots (oats, clover, and vetch) and have always spread 13-13-13, and that"s worked okay, but am curious as to whether spreading some lime would help.
The soil"s basically sugar sand---I"ll naturally get a great crop of goat weed, bull nettle, and a variety of wild flowers in the spring.
Some years, the clover looks really good (crimson), others it"s just so-so.
I haven"t had the soil tested (not quite sure how you test a hand full of sand)...
Thanks for any input!

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ricedaddy

11-28-2005 09:53:17




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 Re: Adding Lime in reply to 1945 A, 10-20-2005 06:29:55  
1 get a soil sample
2put it out in the fall
3watch how much sulfur you use
4 good luck and remember you get very little use the first year unless you use liquid lime



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jc

10-22-2005 18:29:01




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 Re: Adding Lime in reply to 1945 A, 10-20-2005 06:29:55  
Did not see soil PH mentioned in the other posts.
PH level is the basis for lime recomendations.
This level will be shown in the soil test results. Proper PH level provides greatest effacy of fertilizers and soil aditives.We provide soil testing by a private lab at no charge to our customers.



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Gary The Rookie Farmer

10-21-2005 17:03:38




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 Re: Adding Lime in reply to 1945 A, 10-20-2005 06:29:55  
The answer to "When should I lime?" is always now.
The answer to "How much should I lime?" is a little trickier and is anwered by getting a soil test. And in case you thought of getting one of those ph meters they sell in garden centers; forget it. They are about as reliable as 'Magic 8 Balls'.

P.S. And don't try stealing my screen name. There's only room for one 'rookie farmer' around these parts.

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1945 A

10-24-2005 07:44:19




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 Re: Adding Lime in reply to Gary The Rookie Farmer, 10-21-2005 17:03:38  
Hadn"t even considered the fact that there were more rookies out there, since just about everyone I come in contact with knows more than than I do when it comes to farming questions, but hey, if "Rookie" is that important to you, I"ll just use "amateur"---NOT a big deal (to me, anyway).
P.S. Thanks for your response, though.



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Gary The Rookie Farmer

10-24-2005 08:00:22




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 Re: Adding Lime in reply to 1945 A, 10-24-2005 07:44:19  
I hope you know I was just kidding.
You can be any (fill in the blank) Rookie Farmer you want to be, as long as your not Gary The Rookie Farmer. :)



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1945 A

10-24-2005 12:12:23




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 Re: Adding Lime in reply to Gary The Rookie Farmer, 10-24-2005 08:00:22  
No offense was taken.
I'm truly a rookie when it comes to anything agricultural related, though. The local Co Op isn't much help, either.
I made the mistake of asking questions there about 4 years ago. I'd had an area that was previously a dump site covered, and was in need of a quick growing grass to prevent erosion. They named 4-5 varieties (names that meant nothing to me at the time), and I settled for a Bahia grass of some sort. They didn't tell me (and I didn't know enough to ask LOL), that it required mowing, not a big deal if you have a tractor and mower, but I was still in the process of rebuilding my JD "A" at the time.
To make a long story short---that grass got well over 5' tall before I could get it mowed.....

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C Davis

10-21-2005 04:52:42




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 Re: Adding Lime in reply to 1945 A, 10-20-2005 06:29:55  
Definatly do as paul said you should be able to contact the county they should have an ag extension prgram or your local farm supply should be able to direct you to the soil test bags. as far as when to apply you can apply lime at any time you don't normally run down standing crop. you will most likly need 2-4 ton per acre to startif you never limed before. in this case 2 ton per acre ag lime or similar screen worked in to siol with disc befor planting corn. 2 ton per acre screenings on top of corn stocks fall. 2ton per acre aglime worked in before oats ect if you rotate crops like this. your soil test will advise the (N)nitrogen and potash. this is important also you may want to change fertilizer depending on the result of the test. penstate university www.agronomy.psu.edu/. not sure where you are i am in western pennsylvania

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kyhayman

10-20-2005 12:53:00




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 Re: Adding Lime in reply to 1945 A, 10-20-2005 06:29:55  
What Paul said :-).

Most counties still have an Extension Agent that you can take the samples to. Here, depending on the county, the cost is free to $10.00 a sample.



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paul

10-20-2005 08:06:36




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 Re: Adding Lime in reply to 1945 A, 10-20-2005 06:29:55  
Get a little garden spade, dig a few small holes throught the plot 6" deep, putting the soil - er, sand - in a bucket from each hole.

Mix.

Take a small sample of this soil, place in a small paper bag the testing lab supplies, pay $10-20, and get your test results.

Best way to know where you are at, & what you need. It's not _perfect_ like spoon-feeding, but it tells you what direction to go.

Anything else is just guessing. Sounds like you need lime, but how much???? Lime takes a few months before it starts working, so sooner is often better to apply.....

--->Paul

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