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ClayB

06-21-2003 05:20:42




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I may not have the right discussion forum for this question but I don't know where else to post this. Please let me know if anyone knows of a more appropriate site.

I've been renovating an old twenty acre hay pasture the last couple of years that was planted with orchard & timothy grass and was left unworked for the last twenty years.

I've killed off most of the invasive noxtious weeds and now the grass is coming back real well. A neighbor has offered to share crop (cut,bale & buy) it for an 80/20% split (him 80%). He's the only one around w/haying equipment. My share amounts to about $100.

Should I go for this deal or, just brush-hog it down a couple times a year and let it decompose in the field in order to continue to build up the top soil/fertility? If I do go with the deal it seems that I would need to fertilize the pasture to replace what nutriants were removed and, it would cost me a more in the long-run than I would receive from the sale of my portion of the hay.

Maybe I don't have a concern here but...

Any thoughts or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

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ClayB

06-26-2003 16:40:34




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 Re: Hay Pasture Renovation in reply to ClayB, 06-21-2003 05:20:42  
Thank you everyone for the input.

I think I'll soil test the field and have it cut/baled this year, burn the field next spring to remove any grass & debrit and then rotary mow it a few times a year for the next few years to build up the soil. And when the pasture is completely restored (without the overgrazed bare spots on the ground) I'll consider baling.

Thanks again all.



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Doug

06-23-2003 11:05:27




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 Re: Hay Pasture Renovation in reply to ClayB, 06-21-2003 05:20:42  
The split doesn't sound very good. If the hay is that bad, I believe that you would be better off mowing it to put the natural fertilizer back in the ground. If possible, burn the field next spring and you will be surprised how well the grass comes back. Then ask for a 50/50 split. Whatever you do, you are better off getting the stuff cut this year one way or another.



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evielboweviel

06-23-2003 10:55:17




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 Re: Hay Pasture Renovation in reply to ClayB, 06-21-2003 05:20:42  
I would keep bushhogging it and build the ground up. As the hay is taken the ground is depleted and would need fertilzer and possible lime. Definitly need to do soil tests and keep the ground good.



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Farmer Tom

06-23-2003 06:34:29




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 Re: Hay Pasture Renovation in reply to ClayB, 06-21-2003 05:20:42  
Around here it's normaly a 60/40 (farmer/owner)split. That's the way I have done quite a few fields. If the owner offers a little wagon loading/unloading help, it would go to 50/50.



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larry

06-23-2003 06:32:25




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 Re: Hay Pasture Renovation in reply to ClayB, 06-21-2003 05:20:42  
first check with county agent about soil test no use putting on more than you need . around here its 50/50 on shares you have the land he has the equipment also recently i asked what to charge for small square bales and the answer is 1.25 per bale



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TGIN

06-21-2003 19:41:56




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 Re: Hay Pasture Renovation in reply to ClayB, 06-21-2003 05:20:42  
Around here {s.e.IN.] it`s more like 50/50 . Some go for 60/40 or 2/3-1/3 if they split on fert.



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Jim Ct

06-21-2003 07:15:41




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 Re: Hay Pasture Renovation in reply to ClayB, 06-21-2003 05:20:42  
After all the effort a little fertlizer would be good even if you don't hay the field.Most guys who hay want to get the most for thier efforts and want to fertlize.Though some landowners shy away from it for all the bad PR about to much fertlizer and hurting the ground water.If run off isnt a cocern 200# an acre is les than what ChemLawn uses on the suburban lots.A share of the expense and greater yield means more return to you.I dont know your situation or the common bu8ssiness practice in your area but you can ask your county extention office.

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