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ShepFL

06-11-2003 08:44:02




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rid the field of the old corn stalks? I was thinking of bush hogging them down and then plow under.

Seeking alternative uses for corn stalks (hog feed?) or efficient alternative means to reclaim ground after corn harvest.
Thanks




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Robert in W. Mi

06-12-2003 17:48:48




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 Re: After manually harvesting corn how do I . . . in reply to ShepFL, 06-11-2003 08:44:02  
I like to put the stalks as mulch back into the ground, and nothing incorporates mulch like a rotavator. You can brush hog them first, but you don't have to, and can just rotavate them in. It saves ANOTHER trip over the field, and NEVER plugs! Robert



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ShepFL

06-13-2003 10:22:56




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 Re: Re: After manually harvesting corn how do I . in reply to Robert in W. Mi, 06-12-2003 17:48:48  
Robert !
I have seen your pics in the past and must agree. I have been keeping my eyes open for a good used one but they are kinda scarce. Folks like 'em so well they don't sell 'em.

I kick myself as I passed on a Meri-Crusher some time ago, he was asking $900. In the meantime I am using conventional tillage. Thought of no-till but not enough profit in my efforts to upgrade equipment at this time.

Still chuggin' in the weeds. . .

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Robert in W. Mi

06-13-2003 19:01:48




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 Re: Re: Re: After manually harvesting corn how do in reply to ShepFL, 06-13-2003 10:22:56  
Shep,

Because i do custom rotavateing here, i do hear about used ones forsale. How much tractor do you have to run one?? A rotavator would be perfect for a truck farm operation. In the past i've done a lot of small plots for truck farmers. Here in the north, rotavateing gets the soil to warm up eariler in the spring, so guys can get an eariler start. That's a big advantage for the guys wanting to be first with sweet corn ect..

I'm takeing less jobs now, so one of these days i'm going to sell one or two of mine. I want to spend more time doing other things i have going on. I'm just going to do 3 or 4 jobs a year, and keep one for my own place.

Let me know what your looking for,

Robert

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ShepFL

06-16-2003 07:52:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: After manually harvesting corn how in reply to Robert in W. Mi, 06-13-2003 19:01:48  
Robert -
Given the HP demands of the rotovator I think my rig would only handle a 60" model. I would love to have a larger one (say 6-8 ft) but would need to upgrade tractor.

I am currently running a refreshed Oliver 550 Dsl. (38HP), awaiting replacement clutch parts right now. I am wanting an Oliver 1650. I would be interested if you have rotovator that would fit the bill for either machine. Then I could do the custom tilling like you are doing. Soil here in N. Florida is sandy loam with some heavy clay in areas.

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Hoosierbuddy

06-12-2003 11:44:46




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 Re: After manually harvesting corn how do I . . . in reply to ShepFL, 06-11-2003 08:44:02  
Shep,I just bush hog the remaining stalks before plowing/discing. I find if I don't,
the plow will plug up with the large pieces of cornstalk left on the ground. Cut as low as you can to shred up the trash(corn stalks and weeds/grass),but try to avoid rocks!!
You can Bale the stalks and use it to feed to cattle or as bedding for other animals.Here in Indiana,it's common to see round bales in the field after the combines are done shelling the corn.
In the "Old Days" the whole plant,ear and all was run through a corn shredder and made into Fodder to feed the cows all winter long.We would blow it into part of a barn in a pile and use it as needed.
The Corn Binder was used to harvest the corn and bind it into groups of 10 or 12 Bundles.The Bundles were then placed in a Shock containing 50 or 100 bundles,and left to further dry until they were run through the shredder.
The Shredder looks like a small Threshing Machine,so you can imagine how it worked.

The Corn Binder left a little stub of stalk sticking up out of the ground-tractor tires hate them!,But back then,most tires were steel lugs so it wasn't a problem.
To get rid of those stubs,a tool that looked like a V shaped sled was used.On the outside of the V,it had long knives to cut the remaining stalks low enough to not cause a problem when the plow came to do it's job.This was called...(surprise) a Stalk Cutter!
Short story long....Rake and Bale for feed or bedding,Or Mow it short and plow it under.
I would mow and plow-not a lot of feed value in the stalks.
Hope I've helped a little.
HB

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KS

06-12-2003 11:35:19




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 Re: After manually harvesting corn how do I . . . in reply to ShepFL, 06-11-2003 08:44:02  
Around here, if it is field corn, we dry it out for fall decorations. People stop all the time wanting the stuff. Local stores sell it from .75cents to a $1 a stalk.



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Okla/kans Bill

06-12-2003 09:12:34




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 Re: After manually harvesting corn how do I . . . in reply to ShepFL, 06-11-2003 08:44:02  

In m own mind, Im Possitive that you could sow rye, BUT I dont know that for a fact. Id say do it, and then youll know. I forgot that perhaps you were interested in how to cut the stalks off from ther ground I know you dont have qa corn binder. The old timers again by and large, 100 to 1 cut theres with a corn knife. THIS IS HARD WORK. Were I u, I would get a weed eater that you can put a small saw blade on, get 2 or more people to g along and they collect the stalks as there cut until they have a good armful, then somone tale there place. Cut yourelf 3ft lengths of twine the night before and put a loop in one end. Devide these amoungst your bundle carriers, and so when one had collected a bundle and stepped aside to lay it down and tie it another would take their place. Make the loop big enough that you can easiely slip it over your finger of your (ormally, for right handed people) left hand and hold the other end over your left shoulder. Then when yu lay theshoci of corn down, reach under and around the shock with the right hand, withdraw the loop from the left and pull it uder the shock, and tie it from the top. Good luck Its easier than it sounds.

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Okla.Kans Billl

06-11-2003 11:08:31




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 Re: After manually harvesting corn how do I . . . in reply to ShepFL, 06-11-2003 08:44:02  

In the old days they would take the corn stalks and 1 feed them whole, enough at a time that the livestock would clean them up/ 2 Grind them up green in a ensilage chopper and put them in a silo 3 shock them and wait thii winter time and feed them. Take your pick. If you got a leaf shreader, that should work fine. As to the ground, immeadiatly disc it 2 or more times and plant in oats, or winter wheat, Again thats what the old timers did. In the beginning the drills for the most part were around 3 or so ft wide. They made them wider, but poor ppeople seldom bought them unless their principal crop was wheat, or oats. Anyway, after the last cultivation, they would imeadiatly to through the rows and sow wheat or oats in the standing corn, thereby having a green carpet to walk on when corn picking time came in the fall or winter. Also, it smothered out most ofd the weekds in the row that the cultivator missed, if there were any

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brian

06-12-2003 08:37:05




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 Re: Re: After manually harvesting corn how do I . in reply to Okla.Kans Billl, 06-11-2003 11:08:31  
Could I also sow rye into the rows as an alternative?



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