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AL165

03-21-2005 19:25:20




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Howdy,

I'm in the process of tilling some new ground that used to be a horse pasture. There is alot of bermuda grass and the ground is pretty hard.
Matter of fact couldn't even get a 2 bottom plow to break. I ran a subsoiler over it and then ran something like a chisel plow over it. This worked pretty well. I then made a pass or two with a disk. I still have large clumps of bermuda grass and large dirt clods. Anyone got any suggestions to what i could do (non chemical)
to get rid of this grass? I wonder if i ran the 2 bottom plow really deep now and just disked the heck of out it if it would work.

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txgrn

04-03-2005 19:51:28




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 Re: Breaking new ground/Bermuda Grass in reply to AL165, 03-21-2005 19:25:20  
Sounds like all you did was make an excellent seedbed for the bermuda to go wild. Every time I try to get rid of it it just comes on stronger.

Roots go several feet deep and you just have a tough time getting rid of it.

Just year before last I had some lease land that hadn't seen steel for at least 25 years. Was a waste land with erosion and weeds and a mess.

I went in and did as you did; worked it over real good down to a depth of about 12" (Haymie chisel plow). Planted sudan seed last spring and got a good stand of sudan for hay. Before the season was over, I had more bermuda in my bales than sudan. This year I did the weed kill again, will fertilize again, but no planting.....gonna harvest the free grass.

Mark

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Sand Flat Bob

03-28-2005 11:37:08




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 Re: Breaking new ground/Bermuda Grass in reply to AL165, 03-21-2005 19:25:20  
Big mistake by tilling bermuda without killing it first. You can plow the ground 6 feet deep now and bermuda will come back. Before you did anything, you could have removed the top 2 to 3 inches of soil which contained all the reproductive part of the bermuda. Now you have placed them in the ground deep as you worked the ground. Your choice now is either "Roundup" or work the ground to death every time the bermuda shows up. This will take several years. Other choice is to completely cover ground with plastic and solarize it. When not wanted, Bermuda grass is the biggest weed you can hope for.

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KEH

03-22-2005 15:08:34




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 Re: Breaking new ground/Bermuda Grass in reply to AL165, 03-21-2005 19:25:20  
If you find out how to get rid of Bermuda grass, pleas let us know. I understand the procedure is to spray it with Roundup after the growth is lush and green. Then, all summer spot spray where it comes back. I don"t know how long the seed in the ground will sprout. I have observed that Bahia grass will compete with Bermuda here in SC. Good luck. KEH



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Coaltrain

03-22-2005 12:55:38




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 Re: Breaking new ground/Bermuda Grass in reply to AL165, 03-21-2005 19:25:20  
How many acres are we talking about? What are you going to farm after broken up?



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Indydirtfarmer

03-22-2005 03:24:25




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 Re: Breaking new ground/Bermuda Grass in reply to AL165, 03-21-2005 19:25:20  
In addition to farming, I work days as a maint. supt. at a country club. We battle bermuda grass in our fairways. (Zoysia) Once it starts, there's not a lot you can do, other than hit it with FusiladeII, Ornamec, or as a last resort, Round-Up.

As long as you have ANY living roots, it will come back. One tried and true method for CONTROLING it in lawns is to let the grass grow more than 4" tall,never cutting any shorter. That MIGHT help in a pasture situation, but I wouldn't count on it. Bermuda is a tough grass. It seems to thrive on conditions that most other grasses can't handle.

Without chemicals, all I can say is good luck!

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Leland

03-22-2005 08:21:21




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 Re: Breaking new ground/Bermuda Grass in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 03-22-2005 03:24:25  
Indy you are right about Zoysia grass I have come into to yards that have been invaded by this and it had spread almost a block.And I used a sod cutter and tore the whole yard out to get rid of the stuff. At least for a while that is.



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