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Animal

03-16-2005 19:27:36




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TodaY I have been discing the fields that I plan to plant in blue corn. I use a 50 J.D. and a double gang I H disc. the disc is very old and very light, but it still does a nice job, I am cutting about 2 inches deep just to get the jump on the weeds. I fall plowed this ground and it sure looks like one fine seed bed right now. I am wanting to wait until first of may to plant and I know ground temp is good and warm. My plan is to spike harrow weather permitting once a week till planting time using a 2 section harrow and evener and pulling it with a 36 B J.D.it weighs about 3200lbs. Do you guys think I am on the right track or do you think this will be too much compaction? I am an organic farmer so this is weed control, and at planting time I will use my heavier disc, and redo the seed bed before I plant.

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Bill(Wis)

03-20-2005 06:04:31




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 Re: Compaction in reply to Animal, 03-16-2005 19:27:36  
Is there any way you can get hold of a field cultivator with sweeps? I think that would give you better weed control than a spike harrow.



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Rick YYC

03-17-2005 18:58:20




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 Re: Compaction in reply to Animal, 03-16-2005 19:27:36  
What kind of soil have you got, and is it dry or moist when you're tilling?

Also, is there any way you could run the tractor wheels in consistent "tramlines" so they never track over where you're going to plant a row? Did a bunch or research on this for Caterpillar back when they were getting into ag, and it seems spreading the driving all over the field also spreads the compaction all over the field.

R

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Animal

03-18-2005 17:08:25




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 Re: Compaction in reply to Rick YYC, 03-17-2005 18:58:20  
We have a clay like soil,it is impossible to follow the same tracks and the soil is moist but not wet when I work it.



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Rick YYC

03-19-2005 08:01:41




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 Re: Compaction in reply to Animal, 03-18-2005 17:08:25  
if the soil is not wet when you work, you could do OK then. Supposedly 80% of compaction occurs in the first pass, so drop the tire pressure a few psi in discing tractor to spread the load, it helps some.

The harrow tractor is pretty light, it's later passes and the soil will be dryer, so you're probably OK there too.

R



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paul

03-16-2005 20:58:42




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 Re: Compaction in reply to Animal, 03-16-2005 19:27:36  
If the harrowing works, I would not pull out the disk again - bring up new set of weed seed.

It is 18 degrees out right now, so not familiar with being able to work up ground this early. Here we get in in mid-April, and plant corn as soon as we can go..... . Six weeks to prepare, wow. I get 6 days if I'm lucky. :)

--->Paul



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kyhayman

03-17-2005 12:55:34




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 Re: Compaction in reply to paul, 03-16-2005 20:58:42  
Paul,

I love to hear the weather from the frozen north :-). You really do make me feel better some times. Today it is 55 deg and sunny, hoping for green up in within the week. Going to try to get fertilizer on hay fields tomorrow, maybe lime the first of the week if it doesnt rain.



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paul

03-18-2005 10:46:03




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 Re: Compaction in reply to kyhayman, 03-17-2005 12:55:34  
12 inches of snow today. Most we have had all winter, normally we get over 50 inches for the year.

I'm just sleeping in.

--->Paul



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Animal

03-18-2005 17:13:36




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 Re: Compaction in reply to paul, 03-18-2005 10:46:03  
Sounds like a plan! The weather here was in the 60s today but the wind has blown like the dikkens the last two days if it lays down I want to spread lime tommorrow. Wanted to go to Iowa to tractor pull but your northern weather backed me off,especially with the price of fuel!



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