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ShepFL

04-28-2003 07:20:59

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I have a IH 140 with mounted cultivators. This weekend I did some cultivating. Found out just how AGONIZINGLY slow you must go to prevent loss. Most of my stuff is knee high but my okra is barely 2".

Anyone got any shortcuts to this process when plants are this small? I am just trying to stay ahead of the weeds.

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gardener

01-13-2004 08:40:49

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Re: Anyone mechanically cultivating? in reply to ShepFL, 04-28-2003 07:20:59

I'm setting up to do some of that kind of cultivation too this season for the first time.
Now, i have a massey harris pony, but havent yet found a bellymount cultivator set for it.I intend to turn around the rims for a 52" clearance between the wheels to straddle the 4' beds.Does anyone know if this is comparably effective as the farmall A or any other oldies?

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JerryG

11-14-2003 10:29:53

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Re: Anyone mechanically cultivating? in reply to ShepFL, 04-28-2003 07:20:59

That is one of the best tractor there is for working a garden. My dad wore out two of them in the gardens and raising 10-22 acres of strawberries for years. He always had very close rows in every field and could plow a lot faster with out messing stuff than I ever could. We just put out about an acre or so of garden now, so I just make the rows 8' apart. That was I can plow all summer and just have to keep an eye on one side of the row at a time. I don't know if you have enough land to do this, but if you you do it sure helps.

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tim[in]

05-18-2003 17:50:16

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Re: Anyone mechanically cultivating? in reply to ShepFL, 04-28-2003 07:20:59

first of all the cultivator is not the only tool and certainly not the best one when the crop is this small oremerged yet. there is the LP gas flamer of which i 'm hoping to purchase one. there is also the rotary hoe, the harrow. many farmers use different harrow types and the will work shallow.i know of some organic farmers who farm over a thousand acres and used one of theseharrows that have teeth that look like hay rake teeth, in a field of drilled soybeans and kept them as weed free as if sprayed.onr row is extremly slow. i have used 2-6 row cultivators. try 6 30" rows with a 155hp tractor that has huge front wheels. actually thinking of going back to 36" rows so i can interseed a green manure or grazing crop between rows. for a great site to learn about non chemical weed control try the rodale NEW FARM site and there are plenty others under chemical free, sustainable,or organic. good luck

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larry

05-18-2003 06:28:04

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Re: Anyone mechanically cultivating? in reply to ShepFL, 04-28-2003 07:20:59

if you think thats bad try blind cultivating following the rows before the corns up always carried a long stick with us to uncover plants also if you have grass cultivate on a good haying day that way the root dries out rather then get transplanted

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steve inTX

05-09-2003 13:59:10

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Re: Anyone mechanically cultivating? in reply to ShepFL, 04-28-2003 07:20:59

We started in the small crops with a knifing sled with fenders and when things were a bit bigger went through with the cultivator.

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Okla/Kans Bill

05-06-2003 19:32:33

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Re: Anyone mechanically cultivating? in reply to ShepFL, 04-28-2003 07:20:59

Waaaaa a. I just finished cultivating 8 acres of corn with a 1934 CC Case.

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TomH

05-04-2003 05:14:34

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Re: Anyone mechanically cultivating? in reply to ShepFL, 04-28-2003 07:20:59

Sounds like you could use one of these:

"Engineers and scientists at the University of California, Davis, are testing a video-guided, GPS-enhanced weed-killing machine..."

It also sounds like the couple learned to farm by looking at pretty pictures in magazines.

Weed Killing Robot

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evielboweviel

05-03-2003 07:21:12

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Re: Anyone mechanically cultivating? in reply to ShepFL, 04-28-2003 07:20:59

I can't tell from your picture what kind of shields you are using. If you don't already have then get a set of rolling cultivator shields. Keep shovels in close on the row, rolling shields set down, and go slow. Also use half sweeps next top row then use full seeps in between rows. go slow as can ist time, then as crops get bigger speed up, then raise shields and go fast for last culotivation to throw dirt ovder by the plant. will need to move half seeps out as plants grow.

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Mudcat49

05-03-2003 04:22:50

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Re: Anyone mechanically cultivating? in reply to ShepFL, 04-28-2003 07:20:59

You have to use a combo of herbicides and cultivating, or go and find you some Mexican hoe hands! Another way is to plant on plastic. the increased yeilds and the less use of fertlizers and herbicides more than pay for the expence of the plastic.

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slim

04-30-2003 07:34:10

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Re: Anyone mechanically cultivating? in reply to ShepFL, 04-28-2003 07:20:59

Spent many hours in the seat of a Super A growing up. It is slow on small plants but much faster than a hoe. I can't tell for sure from your picture but the sweeps on your front cultivators seem kind of big. We used pretty small sweeps on the outside front and very small or just points on the inside fronts. This didn't throw much dirt but it was still very slow.

slim

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04-29-2003 06:46:40

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Re: Anyone mechanically cultivating? in reply to ShepFL, 04-28-2003 07:20:59

TRY IT WITH A G JOHN DEERE. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A SMALLER CULTIVATING TRACTOR.

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Myron KY

04-28-2003 13:42:31

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Re: Anyone mechanically cultivating? in reply to ShepFL, 04-28-2003 07:20:59

Agonizingly slow sure beats the goose neck hoe. :>)

Actually I have a set of shields/fenders that mount between the inside shovel and the crop. These keep the dirt from covering the plants. Of course it also keeps the weeds between the plants from being covered too. The shield height can be raised to allow some dirt to roll under and around the plants. But at only 2", plant height, its going to be hard to adjust. You can also try a different size shovel/sweep next to the row. One that doesn't throw as much dirt in that direction and/or move the inside shovels further away from the row. Of course ground speed, tillage depth and soil conditions are also factors.

My 2�,
Myron KY

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ShepFL - I hear that!!

04-28-2003 20:54:58

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Re: Re: Anyone mechanically cultivating? in reply to Myron KY, 04-28-2003 13:42:31

I hear ya on that goose neck hoe Myron!!

Older couple I am doing some farming/gardening for are REAL particular about their rows. Last weekend the ol' gal stopped and asked me if I knew what a hoe was. I replied, Certainly. She then informed me that the rows looked as if the hoe hadn't touched them since planting! Also, why is it all the work you do is from the tractor seat?

She was right, been to wet to cultivate (clumpy dirt) and their stuff is still to small. I did NOT factor hand hoeing into the effort.

Regardless she went to hardware store and returned with a hoe and started at it. Got about 1/4 row of squash done when she had all she wanted. (rows are about 500' long) Then she started in on me again that perhaps I should consider haying vs. row cropping given the amount of weeds!!!

Really good people just real fussy and set in their ways I guess. Thank goodness her and her husband only come out every other weekend :)

Thanks for the tip on the shovel. I will look at moving that shovel outboard a tad more.

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Myron KY

04-29-2003 08:14:10

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Re: Re: Re: Anyone mechanically cultivating? in reply to ShepFL - I hear that!!, 04-28-2003 20:54:58

LOL! Only took her � row to figure out why your hoeing from the tractor seat.

One other option is to go ahead and cover the weeds. Then have the wife/kids follow behind and uncover the squash, as long, as your only covering a few plants every now and then. It's a P.I.T.A. but still beats the hoe.

Hope you can stay ahead of the weeds and that your "You Pick" operation is a success this year.

Myron KY

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Greg Miller

04-28-2003 10:40:23

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Re: Anyone mechanically cultivating? in reply to ShepFL, 04-28-2003 07:20:59

I just acquired my grandfather's 1940 farmall A with mounted one row cultivator. I seem to remember him moving at a pretty good pace while cultivating soybeans and corn. the only major difference that i see between his A and your 140 cultivators is that the A has a rolling shield and your 140 does not. maybe that shield is a helpful guide because it gives you a mark to aim at. i dont really know since i never cultivated with this tractor myself.

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