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BluForder

03-10-2003 03:34:52




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Seems with all the rain we have been getting, all I have been doing is getting stuck. I mean, stuck in simple 'ol wet soggy yards. Areas of where my pick-up can go, if I take my tractor... it is almost a certain stuck job. I can't even take hay out to the field without getting stuck. Phhhbbbtttt... thats why I got a tractor in the first place... so I didn't have to hand-roll a round bale out there.

I have good ag tires, but that does not seem to help. I thought these tractors are supposed to endure some mud. The first time I got it stuck a good 2 foot in mud. The next several times I learned not to rock, spin or keep trying to drive out. I do make good use of the bucket loader and 2 4x4s. It is standard proceedure now that when the tires start spinning, I drop the 2 4x4s side by side in front of the tractor, drop the bucket and the push myself backwards while in reverse. So far, it has worked great.
( Of course, it took me 9 hours of trying to dig my tractor out and pull it with my truck to figure this trick out )

As a new tractor owner, I would like to learn some more tricks of the trade for NOT getting stuck, getting out of a jam and any other stories. ( Just short of staying off of soggy lawns and fields ). This is my first diesel after upgrading from a IH-184 with turf tires. Needless to say, I am in power heaven.

Could it be the tire style? Or is this more common than I think? I would hate to be one of the few getting stuck. :-)

Thanks! ----Ford 3400 w/loader-----

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scotc

05-20-2003 21:26:00




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 Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to BluForder, 03-10-2003 03:34:52  
if your a 2 wheel drive, drop the loader and use a 3 pt spear/forks, move weight back onto your drive wheels, if your a 4x4, add the spear/forks to the rear and load it before the front



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Zach

04-19-2003 05:41:16




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 Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to BluForder, 03-10-2003 03:34:52  
i always found it to be.. if its just alittle soggy.. and the wheels were sliping or spining alittle.. if you can't easyly go back... just put it in a lower gear or idill it down and that may help, it won't spin the tiers as much and just put it self out.....



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ShepFL

03-31-2003 12:02:59




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 Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to BluForder, 03-10-2003 03:34:52  
I have done my fair share of getting stuck to. I have adopted an ol' tankers expression Yella grass means up to your a$$

Also I am alot more concscience of wet areas. Experience has taught me alot.



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kydavid

03-19-2003 18:35:42




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 Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to BluForder, 03-10-2003 03:34:52  
Get some ballast, lots of ballast. I run all mine with rear tires at maximum fluid fill, plus maximum calcium chloride. Even then need to put a counter weight on the back, sometimes (round bale or a oil drum with concrete in it). Also used geotextile fabric and rock to make a feeding pad and road from my round bales. Try to stay on this and stay off the fields.



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Doug

03-19-2003 08:06:21




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 Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to BluForder, 03-10-2003 03:34:52  
That's some good advice about getting some weight on the back wheels to offset the heavy front engine weight on 2WD tractors. Carrying the hay with the loader only adds to the problem. You might make (or buy for about $125.00) a 3-point bale spike. Use it to back up to your round bales and carry them to the field from behind the tractor instead of with the loader. You can still load and stack with the loader on drier days. I do this with a 1964 Ford 841 and rarely get stuck. We have both sticky red clay and flowing water sands in different spots.

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Doug

03-19-2003 08:26:56




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 Re: Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to Doug, 03-19-2003 08:06:21  
Just as a follow-up: One Spring day I got in a hurry (as we all do) to do some early brush-hog work. We had soaking rains for days and the ground was fully saturated. I buried the Ford 841 to the rear axle. Only lots of chain and a bigger tractor would pull it out. That duty was left to my old "stump puller"! It's a 1951 Case "Wheland LA". It's a 58 bhp drawbar tractor. I let things dry out a couple of days, and it had no trouble snatching the Ford tractor right out of there. Here's a tip - stay on common paths in your fields if possible, it keeps you on more compacted soils. Time your plowing, planting, brush-hogging, etc. with an eye to the weather. Of course I watch the sky signs (and the weather channel) daily! Ha!

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Jim in Michigan

03-18-2003 09:59:19




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 Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to BluForder, 03-10-2003 03:34:52  
Check the air in your tires,, maybe you have too much, I bought a tractor once that had that problem,,tires looked like balloons, and wouldnt go anywhere,I let a lil air out and no more trouble,,also you could have them loaded or gets some weights, or chains,,,Jim



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Kelly C

03-16-2003 05:46:53




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 Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to BluForder, 03-10-2003 03:34:52  
It is amazing to me just how wet the ground gets in the spring. Last March and April we couldnt even drive onto our property with out getting stuck. My wife got the mini van stuck 5 times. I pulled out atleast 4 nabors who came for a visit.
Then when I burried my 4 wheel drive to the axels.
That was it! We parked at the road for the next 3 weeks.
When every thing dried up. I had a road company come out and dig out my drive way. Then they laid down about 8" of class 5. My drive is nice and solid this spring. In my opinion that was the best $2500 I have ever spent.
I feel real sorry for any one who has to venture into a field right now. BRING A SHOVEL!!

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Mr.T

04-02-2003 10:27:06




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 Re: Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to Kelly C, 03-16-2003 05:46:53  
Kelly,
I had some fill brought in too. Started with 10 loads now up to $10,000 but almost there. Rained again and contractor said one spot still a little soft for his cement truck. A yellow brick road to a 24x36 barn!



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edwin

03-14-2003 11:08:28




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 Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to BluForder, 03-10-2003 03:34:52  
just get a good weight for the three point hitch ,it will make a huge difference to traction also much safer .it is eaey to turn over a loader tractor without enough weight on the back.If you are in ground conditions that need dual wheels or half tracks you will have to to spend some $ and get a much bigger 4 wheel drive



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Bill

03-13-2003 05:47:49




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 Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to BluForder, 03-10-2003 03:34:52  
Patience, Builders, excavators and farmers who make a living at their trade know its faster and more profitable to wait until the fields dry up. Even extra wide track dozers have been stuck in the spring in some fields around here, SW Michigan



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Hal/WA

03-12-2003 17:51:27




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 Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to BluForder, 03-10-2003 03:34:52  
Sure nice to have down pressure on the loader, isn't it? One of my tractors has down pressure and the other does not. I have used a similar technique in getting out with the better loader tractor. The other one is much tougher.

I have been on the same ground a long time. A lot of it is fairly rocky, but this time of year even rocky areas can be real soft. I pick rocks continually and have used lots of them to make some roads for the mud season. I try not to get off them any more than I have to until things firm up.

A few years ago, I was trying to plow a field I was reclaiming. It was way out in May, and things were going fine until I went over a spot that was slightly lower than the surrounding area. I hit a seep spring and the front end of the 641D Ford sunk in to the oil pan immediately. I tried to back up, but could see right away that I was only digging in the back tires. I tried to pull the tractor out with my Ford 4x4, but it could not get enough traction. I ended up jacking up the front end, digging out lots of muck, and filling the holes with a whole bunch of rocks. With the tractor more or less level, and my son pulling it backwards with the pickup, I was finally able to drive it out of that mud hole. It took me almost 2 days to get out! I was almost ready to call for a wrecker. I never tried to plow that spot again.

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Mike

03-12-2003 11:02:55




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 Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to BluForder, 03-10-2003 03:34:52  
BluForder,
Unfortunatly, what you're experiencing will happen. When you get alot of rain the ground will get wet and unable to support a tractors weight. Believe me, I used to drive a skidder (forestry work) and I've have my share of trying to work on wet ground. Tractors do get around pretty good but they aren't "mud-sters".
The best way I know of not to get a tractor stuck when the ground is in that condition is to do like I do, leave it parked or operate on created high spots of dirt. I "made a road" from where I store my round bales to where I feed them to cattle and that's the only place the tractor goes when it's wet. Did this by adding about 12" of dirt, like a road, along the path from hay storage to the pasture and even where the bales are stored. Also keeps the bales from standing in water.
The farmers (guys who farm for a living) out where I live aren't even working their fields yet. Tells me just how wet the ground is.
Good luck and wish I had more to offer.

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williamf

03-11-2003 03:01:06




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 Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to BluForder, 03-10-2003 03:34:52  
Two wheel drive tractors with front end loaders are especially prone to getting stuck. Fat tires on the front will help some, as will making sure you have enough counterweight on the back. A three point hitch backhoe attachment would make an excellent counterweight, and with a little practice will get you back out of most situations.



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fredo

03-10-2003 19:58:56




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 Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to BluForder, 03-10-2003 03:34:52  
put dual wheels on front and back or look for half tracks that fit your tractor.



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jls

03-14-2003 19:44:50




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 Re: Re: Getting not stuck... :-) in reply to fredo, 03-10-2003 19:58:56  
when I worked with dad it frosted me when he would get on a stuck tractor that I had rocked, and spun and rocked and twisted, and unhooked equip from and rocked and spun. Then he would get on, rev it up, dance on the brakes, bang gears, and out it would come,(sometimes). I try to put out bales in the morn when the ground is froze a little, put out a bunch of bales and ration them with a hot wire. When I moved to Oh it took several years to learn to judge the ground and I was stuck good several times. still get stuck occasionally but less often. There is a learning curve and the bottom of the curve is stickey red clay!

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