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1206SWMO

03-25-2008 18:20:04




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Field work started today in SWMO.My renter is knifing in anhydrous real close to my house as I type this.Cat MT845 (has auto steer) with a brand new 42 ft Blu-Jet applicator.He and his Dad farm around 3000 acres.

15 miles west of me they are planting corn.

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jose bagge

03-27-2008 15:57:11




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 Re: Pics-My Renter Is Knifing In Anhydrous With Cat MT845 in reply to 1206SWMO, 03-25-2008 18:20:04  
don't see anything like that around here...Is this what the one that burnt up (pictured in another post) looked like?



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Howard H.

03-27-2008 19:33:43




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 Re: Pics-My Renter Is Knifing In Anhydrous With Cat MT845 in reply to jose bagge, 03-27-2008 15:57:11  

It wasn't the same model, but yep, that is the same brand and similar in design...

I've seen several of those Cat's burned up... They must be prone to that somehow...

Howard



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Old Iron

03-26-2008 13:24:11




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 Re: Pics-My Renter Is Knifing In Anhydrous With Cat MT845 in reply to 1206SWMO, 03-25-2008 18:20:04  
Yes,... I have a small 160 acre farm.

Farm subsidies allowed farmers to raise surplus crops that kept the cost of food low for sure, but that also creates a surplus that far exceeds "demand". Pride has always prevented me from applying for subsidies, so I worked for over 40 years in construction and worked my small farm "after hours" just to keep the it going.
All my equipment is old, but it's paid for.
The large farmers today are farming huge acreages to make a dollar (in volume), they refuse to tighten their belts and "bite the bullet" while cutting back production, which is what it takes to create a fair market value for our product.
Be honest now,... are you trying to convince me, that farmers deliberately raise surplus crops for the "sole intent" of keeping food prices low for the people who DON'T farm? :) (I'll be honest with you and say, that was NEVER my reason for farming. :lol: )

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paul

03-27-2008 08:33:03




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 Re: Pics-My Renter Is Knifing In Anhydrous With Cat MT845 in reply to Old Iron, 03-26-2008 13:24:11  
There are 1.9 million farmers in this country, of those less thasn 400,000 provide most of the farm production for this country & export.

There needs to be some balance on production, there are very many people depending on our production to meet demand.

Food takes a year to produce, and depends on the weather, and what we decide to plant in spring, will be what we get in fall, to eat for the next year. A lot of things can go wrong with this if 400,000 people decide individually and near a billion people are depending on the results.

I beleive in free eneterprize, but if you look at the big picture, I think we are better off spending less than 10% of our income on food, and 1% of our income on govt programs that keep food production smooth & orderly and somewhat oversupplied.

Rather than living in the countries that spend 40%+ of their income on food, and depend on handouts from other countries to make up the shortages. (But this is true freedom!)

The 3rd alternative is to have the govt tell us exactly what to do, which is what USSR used to do (they ain't around any more) or China is doing (they are importing more & more; used to export...) I think govt incentives are better than govt mandates.....

If you think on that a long time, which way is the better system, better for all? No plan, a guiding hand, or total govt mandate?

Your pride is very cool, but not sure it gets you what you really want in the long run for all people? What should the goal be - no govt involvement and hungry people? I think that would be harmful, & perhaps not such a good goal.....

I say this gently - there are many ways to look at it, and on different days I am on different sides of the issue, so want to be clear - I'm not saying you are wrong. But your view is rather ridgid, and may leave some people out of the loop?

Farm a couple acres for your own use, and you have no concern of others. Farm enough land to sell stuff, and you have to look at the big picture some.

At least you get to choose, so you could do exactly what you want to do. The other 2 systems of farming, there are many people with no choice.

I think our system worked for you, even if it might not look like it?

--->Paul

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UncleBubb*IH

03-26-2008 08:26:01




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 Re: Pics-My Renter Is Knifing In Anhydrous With Cat MT845 in reply to 1206SWMO, 03-25-2008 18:20:04  
I like my older stuff, but i would not have a problem running that outfit ALL day.



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billonthefarm

03-26-2008 04:58:24




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 Re: Pics-My Renter Is Knifing In Anhydrous With Cat MT845 in reply to 1206SWMO, 03-25-2008 18:20:04  
Here in central Il. we are sitting on our hands waiting. I have not seen one single tractor in the field. Manure spreading took place when it was still freezing at night. We are realistically about 3 or 4 days from it being dry enough to do anything. They are calling for heavy rain thursday and friday. Weather premitting alot of courn would get planted here starting about april 10th but right now that is starting to look like it could get pushed back. I was moving some dirt I had piled in the barn lot yesterday and there was still signs of frost in the piles. It has been wet but we have had no drying days, cool, cloudy and near freezing at night. I have a little field of oats to sow but I havent even got the drill out yet. I'm sure the guys with anhydrous to put on are getting a little nervous. bill

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IaGary

03-26-2008 04:42:27




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 Re: Pics-My Renter Is Knifing In Anhydrous With Cat MT845 in reply to 1206SWMO, 03-25-2008 18:20:04  
How far south in Missouri are you?

Still way to cool here in Iowa to start planting.

Daytime highs have not hit the 50's yet.

Gary



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1206SWMO

03-26-2008 13:34:41




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 Re: Pics-My Renter Is Knifing In Anhydrous With Cat MT845 in reply to IaGary, 03-26-2008 04:42:27  
Gary, I'm 100 miles south of KC,MO just east of 71 Hiway.Last year some people started planting corn the middle of March and got it frozen off by 18 degree temps around April 7-8th..Corn needs to be in the ground here by April 15th.

The planters have been running just west of me for 2 days now..Its only in the mid 50's today.



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Old Iron

03-25-2008 20:27:54




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 Re: Pics-My Renter Is Knifing In Anhydrous With Cat MT845 in reply to 1206SWMO, 03-25-2008 18:20:04  
His subsidies are probably making the "payments" on that fancy equipment.



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1206SWMO

03-26-2008 13:41:44




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 Re: Pics-My Renter Is Knifing In Anhydrous With Cat MT845 in reply to Old Iron, 03-25-2008 20:27:54  
The farm subsidies here are $15-20 per acre.It makes no difference if you farm with older or newer machinery.

I used 25-40 year old machinery when I farmed my 380 acres which is all tillable.You just cant do that on 3000 acres.I'm guessing that they lease the Cat MT845.The fertilizer plant owns the 42 ft Blu-Jet applicator and rents it out by the acre.


Their other tractor is an 8410 JD that pulls a 16 row Kinze planter.

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IaGary

03-26-2008 10:48:41




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 Re: Pics-My Renter Is Knifing In Anhydrous With Cat MT845 in reply to Old Iron, 03-25-2008 20:27:54  
Do you farm OldIron?

This is a bad place to start a war on farm subsides.

In past years we got subsides to create cheap food for you.

Now that grain has gone up subsides are almost non existent. And food has gone up.

You pay us thru taxes for cheap food or you can pay at the grocery store.

I didn"t like taking the subsides but we had to to survive.

Gary



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