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Questions and thoughts about Haygrazer Sudex Sudan grass

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Farmallb

02-12-2008 18:35:47




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I grew it 20 years ago for a few years. I always heard that it was hard on the soil and took out more than corn did. Whats your thoughts about that, Ive forgotten, Whats the amounts of small bales a guy can get per acre on it??




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JM in Merit

02-13-2008 17:30:26




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 Re: Questions and thoughts about Haygrazer Sudex Sudan grass in reply to Farmallb, 02-12-2008 18:35:47  
Grew haygrazer a few years. Back when I squared baled everything I got about 80 60 lbs bales to acre, but hay was not that good as it had rained and actually gotten to stemy on me before I could get in to cut it. Usually made 50 to 60 per acre on first cutting and then 30 to 50 on second, ocourse everything depends on rain etc.
I did rent a field that an old man had for 30 years before I got it. he had haygrazer out there every year and he did not belive in feritlzer. Well I tired for several years to get that field to make something and it just never would. I finally gave it back. I tried soybeans, oats and fertilzed heavy but the soil was just worn out from 30 years of haygazer and no fertilizer.

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LAA

02-13-2008 08:39:15




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 Re: Questions and thoughts about Haygrazer Sudex Sudan grass in reply to Farmallb, 02-12-2008 18:35:47  
We plant sudan grass with forage type soybeans, beans are drilled 3 weeks after sudan grass is broadcast.300 lbs. acre 0-12-12 with beans.First cutting around 40 days after planting I set windrower for 4- 6 inch stubble when grass is 36 inches or so high, this saves bean plant and is essential for the grass stand if hot,dry weather sets in after cutting.Second cutting in 45 days and grass is 5-6 feet tall if plenty of rain.If it is a scarce hay year I will fertilize for a third cutting otherwise just turn cows out in late August. Plant heavy rate for thick stands and smaller stems, 50 lbs. to the acre in my area but seed is cheap at $14.00 a bag. A good stand on average land with good rainfall ought to make 5 tons per acre in two cuttings with fertilization. Do not over nitrate as it will get away from you quick and the only real danger of nitrate poisoning is due to to much N and grass cut at immature stage. Sudan grass (hybrids) is a high leaf ratio grass and does not lose most of it value or get unpalatable to cattle as fast as Bahaia or Bermuda grass. The biggest challenge is curing and baling.

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skyharborcowboy

02-12-2008 20:27:56




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 Re: Questions and thoughts about Haygrazer Sudex Sudan grass in reply to Farmallb, 02-12-2008 18:35:47  
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION



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smigelski

02-12-2008 19:47:09




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 Re: Questions and thoughts about Haygrazer Sudex Sudan grass in reply to Farmallb, 02-12-2008 18:35:47  
depends on the planting rate, rainfall and size when cut.



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