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Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna hay?

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The Bachelor

01-09-2008 07:49:40

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Howdy,
Need some help here. I put up about 2000 small squares a year for the cows.For some reason the kids have grown and are about to leave the house and the farm is not big enough to hire help.I like squares because I can store them in what I've got and I can't produce enough hay for 20 or 30% waste I'd have by storing the rounds outside.
Anyway, I'm looking for help on inexpensive ways I can get the hay by myself. I've thought about that hay basket thing. Anyone had any luck with that? I'm thinking accumulators are too expensive and may need too much horsepower (my biggest tractor puts out 55 hp at the drawbar).
Thanks for any and all suggestions,
Brad

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36 coupe

02-01-2008 01:58:23

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

Find some one who uses hay to help.I have taken hay as pay years ago.Hay is selling for 3.00 a bale here.

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The Bachelor

01-15-2008 04:42:25

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

Thanks again. This haybasket is looking more and more promising.

One more question....

How do you handle hills and turns. Do you have to rake your windrows in straight lines and shut the baler down on the corners?

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RickL

01-15-2008 05:56:34

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-15-2008 04:42:25

No and No. If you have it set right and hooked up correctly you just bale. 80 90 bales self load,150 if you stack them inside basket. give me shout or call 319-257-6764 shop. you will also need special short hitch pin and let you know the other tricks.

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The Bachelor

01-11-2008 09:39:20

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to Pilothawk, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

RickL said: (quoted from post at 08:31:38 01/11/08) But my geuss is you have probably the haymow type storage access by elevator,if thats the case basket wagon best bet, or like some one else mention hire a driver for couple days thats cheapest option by far.[/quote:94bb5b5330]

Well Right now I have three barns. One has a haymow, the other two are shed types. One of the sheds isn't high enough for a wagon, the other I built and is. Right now the one I built holds 1500 bales, the other 500, and the haymow about 400. Thanks for your advice.
[quote:94bb5b5330]How many acres of alfalfa are you growing? I have a very small pasture I thought about planting to feed my own stock as well, but haven't decided if it's worth it or not. I feed about 15-18tons of alfalfa a year.

I'm growing fescue and clover here. I'll tell you haying can sure suck you in. My baling was looking pretty good to the bottom line when I had the ol free Ford 532 going. After it broke and I couldn't find the part for it anywhere (and being chased off porches by curr dogs when I went to ask about parts balers), I got so frustrated I bought a new one. Now the ol bottom line isn't looking so good..... You can buy alot of hay for the price of a new baler.

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SheldonS

01-11-2008 09:17:16

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

The Bachelor,

How many acres of alfalfa are you growing? I have a very small pasture I thought about planting to feed my own stock as well, but haven't decided if it's worth it or not. I feed about 15-18tons of alfalfa a year.

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RickL

01-11-2008 05:31:38

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

Been there done that also. Kids grown gone which am thankful for so they have ther own lives. Grew up behind thrower balers. Ran the bale baskets units (3) for 10 -12 seasons loved them. Now run accumulator setup, and 12 donahue trailers for hauling. If you are wanting to use existing storage probably baskets would be best bet. Can you acces barn with tractor grapple Can you access with wagons
these what you need to know for I can help you. But my geuss is you have probably the haymow type storage access by elevator,if thats the case basket wagon best bet, or like some one else mention hire a driver for couple days thats cheapest option by far.

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plowboy 14505

01-10-2008 14:42:17

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

new holland bale wagon

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The Bachelor

01-10-2008 09:24:02

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

Well Thanks all again. For something my size, the hay basket might be right up my alley. I'm gonna look into it.

Hayray- The wagon hitch on your baler.... Did you make it yourself?? MF is pretty proud of those things. If so, I'd sure like to pick your brain.

Thanks again,

Brad

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hayray

01-10-2008 09:44:02

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-10-2008 09:24:02

No, that is the factory hitch, all as I did was cut it down a bit to make it shorter so that the bale basket chute rides closer to the baler. Although, if you wanted to make your own it sure would be easy. Mine is just a I think a 3 or 4", 1/4" or 1/8" thick walled pipe that inserts into another tube and slides in and out. I had trouble drilling another hole straight thru the hitch pipe, ended up crooked.

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MN Bob

01-10-2008 05:47:09

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

I use an accumulator and grapple. Have to look around but find an old Farmhand unit. Some were ground skid and some trailer and hydralic. Ones I found needed work but I have less than $2000. in them. Many of the new ones look like copies. Especially the grapples. Good luck

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The Bachelor

01-10-2008 03:13:22

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to Fern(Mi), 01-09-2008 07:49:40

Old Ford Mechanic said: (quoted from post at 20:28:19 01/09/08) Hey Bach,Now this is only a suggestion and it won't be a quick fix but,have you and the missus thought about trying for twins?

Oh now we keep tryin..... :wink:

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730virgil

01-09-2008 19:53:41

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

a friend of mine has used a bale basket for several years. his dad runs baler brings baler and basket to barn dumps and back to field. fields are close to barn. when scott has time he will put bales away. scott will be either using round baler or cutting more hay.

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Old Ford Mechanic

01-09-2008 19:28:19

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

Hey Bach,Now this is only a suggestion and it won't be a quick fix but,have you and the missus thought about trying for twins?

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IaGary

01-09-2008 16:41:24

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

You may have to rethink your whole setup for the future.

I have been doing the equivalent of 10,000 little square bales a year by myself for over 15 years.

But I bale it in large rounds and put them in the barn. No waste.

If your hay storage is on the ground in the barn and not in a loft you may want to consider stacking large rounds in the barn.

You can't justify a round bale with your numbers so you would hire the baling done.

Or just buy more wagons so you can unload the little squares when you want. Then all you need is a driver for the baler to pull you around on the rack.

Gary

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Larry NE IL

01-09-2008 13:08:03

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

I don't know what baler you are using, but I bale with an Oliver 720 and pull an 8 bale accumulator with my Oliver 770 that don't put out 55 HP on it's best day.
A decent used drag accumulator/grapple can be had for around $5000.00-$6000.00. Works good for me.

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The Bachelor

01-09-2008 10:51:31

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to Keith Harpster, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

Thanks, Thats what I needed to know. Does that basket work behind inline balers too (MF or Heston)?

Thanks Again,

Brad Bachelor

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Larry NE IL

01-11-2008 21:01:02

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 10:51:31

Yep! If you find one used, the hitch should come with it. Just 2 pieces of 3"x 18'X 3/16" and a square bar connected under the bale chamber. On mine the squar bar is about 2' longer so there is one hitch in the middle of the bale chamber and one offset so you can pull the accumulator in a straight line when traveling.

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hayray

01-10-2008 08:58:28

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 10:51:31

I bale with a Hesston in-line and bale baskets, no modifications necessary, the side pick-up conventionals require a special add on hitch.

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hayray

01-10-2008 09:01:11

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to hayray, 01-10-2008 08:58:28

attempt picture again

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Larry NE IL

01-11-2008 21:05:53

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to hayray, 01-10-2008 09:01:11

HayRay, that is one neat photo! I like the tractor and the baler. Got a friend here that uses an 1850 with His Hesston baler, and loves it.
I'd go there, but going on 66, i'm looking to do less, not more!
Larry NE IL

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hayray

01-13-2008 05:19:10

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to Larry NE IL, 01-11-2008 21:05:53

The bale basket would be the cheapest investment of the whole deal, now those are around $3700, they were 2700 years ago when I bought mine. The baler ends up costing a solid $20,000. You make your money back fast on the basket without having to pay labor.

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plowboy 14505

01-11-2008 17:34:57

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to hayray, 01-10-2008 09:01:11

is that old white fogging a little?

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hayray

01-11-2008 18:37:44

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to plowboy 14505, 01-11-2008 17:34:57

it burns a bit rich.

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Fordfarmer

01-09-2008 08:15:51

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

Pic of my tractor/baler/basket. Have done 1400+ bales in one day w/ 2 baskets and 2 helpers.

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paul

01-09-2008 09:50:16

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to Fordfarmer, 01-09-2008 08:15:51

I use a much smaller tractor, but basket works well for me too. I have the St Cloud version.

--->Paul

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Fordfarmer

01-09-2008 08:06:48

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

I've been running hay baskets for about 15 or 16 years. (Yikes! didn't realize it has been that long until I started thinking about it just now)Wouldn't be without them. Mine are Pro Quality, built in St.Cloud, MN (now out of business), but I've heard only positive about EZ Trail's baskets, too. Can't get me to use a kicker baler/wagon either. If your tractor is big enough to pull a wagon behind the baler, it can handle a basket behind the baler.

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Dave from MN

01-09-2008 08:01:39

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Re: Wife: (sniff..) All our kids are gone...Me: Who's gonna in reply to The Bachelor, 01-09-2008 07:49:40

My freind had the same issue. He slowly aquired 18 thrower racks and now just bales the hay, puts them in the shed till someone can unload them, or feeds off the wagon.

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