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Flewster

11-02-2007 08:06:52




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Alright I did not get my ground broke up enough to plant it this fall so I want to plant Alfalfa this next spring. I only have a disk and a drag harrow and will have to rent the drill. The ground is about 3 acres of old brome pasture that I have worked twice with the disk. It had a lot of weeds in it as it was neglected in years past. What do I need to do to get ready for spring planted alfalfa in NE Kansas area..... ...Thank you.

Wayne

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Ron/PA

11-06-2007 08:49:18




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 Re: Spring Alfalfa in reply to old, 11-02-2007 08:06:52  
Cultipacker

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Flewster

11-06-2007 05:34:54




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 Re: Spring Alfalfa in reply to Flewster, 11-02-2007 08:06:52  
Thanks everyone..... Couple questions. What is a cultipacker? And I plan on disking it again this fall if I get a chance and a couple times in the spring. When do you plant alfalfa in eastern Kansas? i do have a broadcaster or at least can get one so I will probably do that. Should I test my soil now or in the spring? What chemicals will control the brome grass once the alfalfa is up? Thanks again

Wayne

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hayray

11-07-2007 10:36:32




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 Re: Spring Alfalfa in reply to Flewster, 11-06-2007 05:34:54  
To answer your question regarding brome control in alfalfa I would plan a post-emergence application of Raptor mixed with Post Plus. You need to be ready to spray those chemicals as soon as the grass and other weeds start. Raptor does some grass control but used mainly for broadleaves while the Post is specifically for grass. The Raptor works real good, the Post Plus is a compromise to the pre-tillage application of round up that would have had a much better effect
on the brome.

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Ron/PA

11-04-2007 16:36:00




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 Re: Spring Alfalfa in reply to wayne2, 11-02-2007 08:06:52  
These tests were in reply to a problem I had posting on here.

Threre's a problem on my end ' ' ' """

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Gerrit

11-04-2007 15:46:48




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 Re: Spring Alfalfa in reply to Glenn in Ohio, 11-02-2007 08:06:52  
Another test: ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '

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GeneSC

11-04-2007 15:45:00




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 Re: Spring Alfalfa in reply to MLD, 11-02-2007 08:06:52  
Test . " ' ' ' ' " " '' , ,



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kyhayman

11-04-2007 06:57:07




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 Re: Spring Alfalfa in reply to Flewster, 11-02-2007 08:06:52  
Based on your situation, I'd keep working the ground, every time its dry enough to try to get a really good seedbed come spring.

What Im doing now is working down some ground I plowed 3 weeks ago. Looks like 3 trips over it with the disc, 1 set to cut, and two to level. Plan on drilling rye into it this next week. Come spring I can take the rye off, disc twice (once cutting and once leveling) then plant alfafla with a cultipacker seeder.

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Randy-IA

11-04-2007 06:25:48




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 Re: Spring Alfalfa in reply to Flewster, 11-02-2007 08:06:52  
I don't know what type of soil you have but the mistake I made after I did fertilizer applied seed was to run a spike harrow drag over it with the drag adjusted flat . Wasn't a good idea LOL. I own a old horse drawn Brillion single gang 10' wide cultipacker now but have no use for it for a couple more years when and if I'll have to reseed from scratch . I'm thinking about doing some frost seeding this next spring or renting a no-till drill to get a thicker stand . Good Luck ! ...Randy

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hayray

11-04-2007 06:35:02




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 Re: Spring Alfalfa in reply to Randy-IA, 11-04-2007 06:25:48  
I try to cultipack before I broadcast and then for sure after. YOu are right, dragging it in can bury some of the seed too much. That works alot better on larger seeds like wheat.



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hayray

11-03-2007 17:42:20




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 Re: Spring Alfalfa in reply to Flewster, 11-02-2007 08:06:52  
Normally it is wise to spray round up right now but you have already disked the ground so the round up won't be of any benefit soil applied. You should work the ground up as much as you can so that you can plant as early in the spring as you can. The better the seed bed is prepared now the better the chance you have of reducing the brome competition next spring. You may still have a fair amount of brome come back up in the alfalfa seeding because it tillers agressively and fall tillage work may not completely kill all the roots, that is why round up is recommened in the fall. Instead of using a drill you can broadcast the seed with the same results. If you don't have a spreader you can go to your fertilizer dealer and have them mix the seed in with your fertilizer and spread it on that way and then cultipack it in. If you do it that way you need to spread the seed right away, don't let the seed sit in the fertilizer over night.

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Ron/PA

11-04-2007 15:25:22




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 Re: Spring Alfalfa in reply to hayray, 11-03-2007 17:42:20  
I"ve given up the drill and now broadcast all my wheat. I run a pass over the field with fertilizer, then the seed. I don"t have a cultipactor, but I have an old single section 6 foot disc. I set it nearly straight and run just fast enough to toss some soil. I leave a small amount of seed on top, but so far, it"s done well for me. This is a very light weight disc, so I don"t bury anything too deep.
My brother still drills, and I"m sure he"s gettin more benefit out of his fertilizer than I am, but if my ground isn"t worked well enough, I pay the price.
Good luck
Ron

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