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Discussion Board - Very noobie-ish question. How to Hay.

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8n/9n

07-12-2007 18:05:48




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Hi I have never done any kind of hayying and I would like to learn how to. So I would like any kind of information from what type of mower, and any other steps such as raking and bailing (square bales). Thanks alot. Ben




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Dan hill

08-15-2007 04:54:24




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 Re: Very noobie-ish question. How to Hay. in reply to 8n/9n, 07-12-2007 18:05:48  
Hire out as a helper to a farmer.Its very hard to get help haying.This way you will learn how to fix equipment also.



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paul

07-13-2007 09:20:14




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 Re: Very noobie-ish question. How to Hay. in reply to 8n/9n, 07-12-2007 18:05:48  
Here is a nice on-line manual to your question.

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8n/9n

07-13-2007 08:07:16




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 thanks in reply to 8n/9n, 07-12-2007 18:05:48  
Thanks everyone for you help, that is al I needed to know, yes this is a small tractor and what I may end up doing is helping someone else hay, and since mine can run some of the equipment. But thank you to everyone for the help.



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FreeRanger

07-13-2007 07:17:14




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 Re: Very noobie-ish question. How to Hay. in reply to 8n/9n, 07-12-2007 18:05:48  
First you NEED a bigger newer tractor!

Not kidding here, I am trying very hard to make hay with a 1955 Ford 600 which is slightly more tractor than your 8n/9n tractors. IT IS NOT BIG ENOUGH for making hay. Doesn't weigh enough on the hills, doesn't have live PTO, doesn't have hydraulics, doesn't go slow enough.....but hey that doesn't stop me from trying...

So this afternoon I will use a New Idea Model 251 sickle mower to cut 4 acre alfalfa/grass field. Let it dry until Sunday noon then Rake with New Holland Model 256 5-bar rake (get a five bar rake not a four bar rake I am told). then try like heck to bale with a New Holland Model 66 baler on Sunday afternoon and all day Monday.

That's the plan. Didn't go to good with first crop. Had to hire custom baler to make the bales because 66 baler and Ford 600 couldn't handle the volume of first crop winrows. Tractor too fast and no live PTO. Step on clutch to slow down tractor and PTO stops which jams the bale with too much hay in the feeder.

Still working on my New Holland model 479 haybine to make it work with no hydraulics. I use a ratching top link to raise and lower. Again no live PTO is a hinderence for clearing the feeder. Plus one roller drive chain is off and the other keeps coming off. Need to spend some quality time getting it field ready. Until then sticking with the sickle mower.

Did I say GET a BIGGER newer tractor?!

Anyway you could do what I did last year. I do the first two steps: cutting and raking while I hire out the job of baling. Unfortunately you are at the mercy of the custom baler to come after he has finished his own fields.

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dan hill

08-15-2007 04:49:11




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 Re: Very noobie-ish question. How to Hay. in reply to FreeRanger, 07-13-2007 07:17:14  
Ive using a Ford 600 to bale hay for 15 years now.Keep the windrows light.Farmall H tractors have made plenty of bales and 8ns pull engine powered balers with no problem.I have a photo of a 90 year man baling hay with a Farmall Cub and an engine powered baler.I used a John Deere H and an AC roto baler to bale hay for many years.



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John (MO)

07-16-2007 12:00:22




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 Re: Very noobie-ish question. How to Hay. in reply to FreeRanger, 07-13-2007 07:17:14  
A good running WD Allis will cost you between $800 and $1100. You'll love the hand clutch.



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daves40acre

07-13-2007 05:36:14




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 Re: Very noobie-ish question. How to Hay. in reply to 8n/9n, 07-12-2007 18:05:48  
You might want to help someone haying also before you get started buying equipment and doing it, this way you will get an idea of what is involved. like was said before balers are very tempermental. Also if you help someone you will learn about baling dry hay or when to bale it up, hay can catch fire if baled green or damp. Look through this site of previous posts of baler troubles or even mower troubles, will help in trouble shooting when equipment is giving you fits.

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Lincoln

07-12-2007 20:39:48




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 Re: Very noobie-ish question. How to Hay. in reply to 8n/9n, 07-12-2007 18:05:48  
First you will need a mower. A sickle mower of some kind will be the cheapest way to start. I have a JD #37, but there are tons of good sickle mowers out there. Get an owners manual for what ever model you get, and be ready to work on it because most sickle mowers are getting old and will need repair.

Next a rake. Side delivery, roll-a-bar type. New Holland makes good rakes.

Square baler. I personally would not buy anything other than a New Holland or maybe a John Deere. Balers are tempremental. Great machines when working right, but they can make you pull your hair out when they get off kilter. You will, without question, need a book for your model.

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