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O/T chickens before Columbus

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Gary in TX

06-05-2007 06:35:07




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Ok guys, we have gone over the deep end now. A story on yahoo this morning is saying the people were actually making a study/research on whether or not chickens were here in North America before Columbus. Have these people not got anything better to do with their time????? Or is the government or some company paying to find this out. I may just be a simple minded custom hay baler, high school education only but I have a load of common sense. The population of this country has slipped a cog or two.

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jlmtractor

06-06-2007 14:22:20




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Gary in TX, 06-05-2007 06:35:07  
well gary in tx i dont believe we could get a excavator or a trencher everywhere we need a hole so how do you expect to dig that hole with your hands lol i just had to say something



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Gary in Tx

06-06-2007 20:01:22




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to jlmtractor , 06-06-2007 14:22:20  
Thats dig holes with shovels! Of course you have to use your hands which would involve manual labor which I sincerely doubt a big percentage of the population have no clue how to do anymore. I read some of the post saying something about game fowl or some such, again someone thowing something in that was not even brought up. We are talking chickens folks, cluck cluck cluck, lay and egg and then be cut up by Bo Pilgrim and put in a package.

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jlmtractor

06-07-2007 10:58:25




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Gary in Tx, 06-06-2007 20:01:22  
look gary in tx i was simply making a joke if you are going to go get serious about it get over it. i work every day in fact i have worked saturday and most sundays for the last two months if you dont call putting in water service and running electric manual labor you can get over it in one week end i dug over a hundred foot of water service by hand. if that isnt manual labor than wut is



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Pete in MD

06-05-2007 20:50:58




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Gary in TX, 06-05-2007 06:35:07  
Many people get degrees in "fields" that have no useful purpose other than qualification to become a professor of same, get tenure, and eventually retire after authoring several books and teaching others useless knowledge. Along the way they conduct or participate in useless studies funded with tax dollars. It's a form of welfare for those who can't survive in the outside world.



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buickanddeere

06-05-2007 12:26:39




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Gary in TX, 06-05-2007 06:35:07  
There is nothing that study can't find out by reading any decent book on how to breed and raise fancy fowl. Looks like there was either money to spend in the budget before the fiscal year is up Or somebody is paying off a buddy with a consulting firm. The rare breeds and base stock of all kinds of livestock and pets WILL BE vital sooner or later. Time and time again with plants and livestock. The commercal breeders do back themselves into a corner genetically. Natural vigur is lost and worse yet natural disease/pest resistance to some new old bug. In a few years bananas will be a luxury food. There is some type of canker ruining the trees. The inedible wild bananas are immune or at least tolerant.

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Rich Va

06-05-2007 10:10:35




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Gary in TX, 06-05-2007 06:35:07  
Know why the chicken crossed the road?



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JeffLTN

06-05-2007 10:26:29




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Rich Va, 06-05-2007 10:10:35  
To prove to the armadillo that it could in fact be done.



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Dave in GA

06-05-2007 10:23:05




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Rich Va, 06-05-2007 10:10:35  
To see a man lay bricks?



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Dave in GA

06-05-2007 09:45:28




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Gary in TX, 06-05-2007 06:35:07  
A waste of money. Does it really make any difference where chickens lived before Columbus? NASA is another waste of our money, in my opinion. Look at the billions spent on Hubbles taking pictures of this nebula or that nebula, and billions trying to figure out if there's life on Mars. I couldn't care less if there's life on another planet. We don't even have respect for life on our planet. Why not take the billions of dollars and give our troops the support and paychecks they deserve?

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Walt Davies

06-05-2007 16:43:45




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Dave in GA, 06-05-2007 09:45:28  
Dave I wouldn't jump to hard on NASA right now as you are using a lot of the fall out from it with your computer and the internet, want to go back to hand crank phones do you HUH!.
Walt



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Spook

06-05-2007 23:42:15




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Walt Davies, 06-05-2007 16:43:45  
I have friends that refuse to believe anything about the space program is real. According to them, nobody ever went into space, much less the moon. They believe the whole was "hollywood".



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Sloroll

06-05-2007 09:38:05




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Gary in TX, 06-05-2007 06:35:07  
It is true Columbus was here before the chicken but then "First Mate" Saunders saw a definite market for them.



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Dave Sherburne NY

06-05-2007 09:32:29




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Gary in TX, 06-05-2007 06:35:07  
They get your tax money from the government in the
form of grants to find out these things nobody cares about.



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Walt Davies

06-05-2007 08:34:44




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Gary in TX, 06-05-2007 06:35:07  
Turkeys are native to North America, chicken came from Asia it could actually be possible that some were brought over by early inhabitants but I don't think they were very successful because of the evidence. Very interesting though to think about it.
Walt



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Rich Va

06-05-2007 07:54:07




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Gary in TX, 06-05-2007 06:35:07  
Not only chickens here before Columbus but turkeys too!



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730virgil

06-05-2007 07:35:57




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Gary in TX, 06-05-2007 06:35:07  
only a cog or 2 i think they blew the whole drive train! the best thing that can happen to a chicken is be a eaten by a coyote after it gets ran over on the road.



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you

06-05-2007 07:02:07




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Gary in TX, 06-05-2007 06:35:07  
Yes they were here , But they clucked in Aztec



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RustyFarmall

06-05-2007 06:56:14




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Gary in TX, 06-05-2007 06:35:07  
The ancestor of the chicken may have been here before Columbus, but the chicken as we know it today is a complete hybrid that probably cannot be traced back much more than 100 to 150 years or so.



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John (MO)

06-05-2007 11:15:34




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to RustyFarmall, 06-05-2007 06:56:14  
No chickens before 1857? Surely you jest.



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Traditional Farmer

06-05-2007 08:33:09




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to RustyFarmall, 06-05-2007 06:56:14  
Not true Jungle Fowl from SE Asia look almost identical to the modern Game Chicken and they have been around since recoreded history in that area



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Gary in Tx

06-05-2007 06:58:14




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to RustyFarmall, 06-05-2007 06:56:14  
Frankly, who gives a rip? Only over educated idiots would worry about something like this.



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Dave H (MI)

06-05-2007 11:42:24




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Gary in Tx, 06-05-2007 06:58:14  
Interesting post. Frankly it never occurred to me that you could have too much education...probably too much ignorance is a bigger problem. Everyone seems up in arms over the cost of this study but I think probably you would find that it is students working on an advanced degree who have selected the topic and are footing the cost through tuition. Butt mebbe I iz wrung.



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Gary in TX

06-05-2007 19:41:20




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 Re: O/T chickens before Columbus in reply to Dave H (MI), 06-05-2007 11:42:24  
Education is not a bad thing, don't get me wrong. But if you don't have common sense to go along with it, you don't have much. There are too many kids being taught so much technology today that too many don't know how to do the most simple tasks. I ran into a prime example a few years back. A kid probably 19 to 21 had a flat on the right front of his Ford truck up here at the local store. I was putting diesel in the tank on the back of the truck for tractor fueling. He came over and asked. Do you have something to take this center thing off of my wheel, I have a flat. I thought he might have a special wheel or something???? Nope, plain old wheel. He had the truck jacked up, the lug nuts off and had no clue the tire and wheel just came off. I have several stories like this I could share but I'm not up to that much typing tonight. It doesn't mattter how advanced we get, we are still going to dig holes with shovels.

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