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Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story

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Kevin in OK

04-13-2008 16:01:21




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Thursday, I was borrowing a trailer from my uncle. It's a 16' bumper pull tilt bed trailer, with tandem axles and a 2 5/16" bulldog hitch. I had to follow him to a small shop a few miles away to have the bigger ball mounted. Anyways, on to the reminder part.

Thursday afternoon, its raining pretty steadily. He hops out to hitch up, gets everything hooked up, but, unknowingly, the bolt to hold the hitch closed is skipped. We start going down the highway, him ahead of me by about 70 yards. Nobody is going terribly fast due to the rain, but it is the highway and we are cruising about 50 mph.

I notice the trailer sort of wobble due to the wind, but that doesn't bother me much because it is a tilt bed. But it eventually starts shaking side to side. That's when I know something isn't right. The trailer had come unhitched. Having never seen anything like this in person, and really not knowing what to do, I hang back, as well as most of Oklahoma City's Rush Hour traffic.

The trailer is now shaking from side to side, when the safety chain decides to snap. We are approaching an overpass, and my uncle wants to get this runaway train stopped. The trailer veers to the right into the emergency lane where my uncle attempts to wedge it between the concrete barrier and the truck, but the trailer starts to ride up the barrier, threatening to fall off the overpass and onto the road below. He quickly eases to the left to prevent that.

The trailer is still rolling quickly down the highway, where my uncle tries to hit it again to keep it on the right, out of traffic. Unfortunately, the trailer has now rolled forward past the truck. When he hits the trailer to move it over, the trailer fender snags his right rear tire and blows it out. Since the trailer is ahead of the truck, the hit acts a lot like a PIT maneuver, causing the trailer to do a complete 180.

The trailer is now rolling backwards towards the center median, and the truck has got a blown out tire. The trailer continues on, crosses all three lanes of traffic, and bounces off the center divider. My uncle is trying to follow it to keep the traffic at bay. When the trailer hits the center divider, it bounces off and rolls clear back across the highway and comes to rest in the grass about 100 feet past the edge of the bridge.

Total time: 6 seconds (maybe, it seemed like a lifetime)
Total distance: 1000 feet, roughly
Total damage: Broken Safety chain, torn wiring, minor sheet metal damage, and a blown tire

Don't get in a rush, and always double check.

Kevin

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Bruce Hopf

04-15-2008 18:56:50




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
What if I told you that safety chains are for decorations. What would you say to that. Before you say a ting, I will explain. I was a transport truck driver for 13 years, and I have driven pretty well all over North America, both sides of the border. I have seen a lot of accidents, between smaller vehicles pulling trailers, everything from U Hauls, to boats. Most preventable due to safety chains, properly installed, or not.
I have also seen dump trucks pulling pup trailers, lose a pup trailer, because the eye broke at the pile. It was loaded with gravel, and it veered off to the right, good thing, the tongue plowed into the shoulder, and flipped end over end into the ditch. Gravel every where, nobody hurt, but was scary on a three lane highway. The safety chains snapped like nothing.
Now back to my theory. The trailer manufactures don't put the heaviest safety chains on their trailers. That is why I call them decorations. Every trailer I have purchased, I upgrade my safety chains. If you have seen the things that I have seen, you would too. My boat trailer has a real old, and heavy 12' aluminum boat on it. I put grade 70, 5/16" safety chains, with grade 70 hooks. It had 1/4" light chains on it. I have a 5' x 10' tandem axle, box trailer. It had 5/16 light grade safety chains on it. I put grade 70, 3/8 safety chains with grade 70 hooks. I also have a tandem axle car trailer I converted into a deck over. It had 3/8 light chains, and I installed grade 70 3/8 safety chains with grade 70 hooks. I'm seriously thinking of upgrading to grade 70, 7/16 safety chains and grade 70 hooks, because I haul tractors on it. My own, plus my customers tractors.
I've seen wagons loaded with wheat, or corn for whatever reason, leave home with no forwarding address, come UN hooked, and the safety chain failed. I always try to use a safety chains with a heavier safe working load, than what I am actually pulling, on the trailer. I don't use a heaver breaking strength chain for load what I'm pulling an the trailer. That's where I feel there is the problem Trailer manufactures look at the breaking strength of chain, But the chain could have a weaker link in it. That's why I use safe working load. I've always used chains that had a high working load, when I used to haul semi flat bed trailers. I always felt, when a car went by, that could be my family going by, not somebody Else's, and I always wanted to make sure my loads where secure for that reason. My thoughts any way.

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Owen Aaland

04-14-2008 23:04:00




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
In Minnesota you need brakes on trailers starting at 1500 lbs. Starting at 3000 lbs the need to be self applying if they become disconnected. Electric brakes must stay applied for at least 15 minutes should the trailer become disconnected.



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john *.?-!.* cub owner

04-14-2008 10:35:47




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kansas Cockshutt, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  

marlowe said: (quoted from post at 20:01:36 04/13/08) sorry but there was NO reason for that to have happened BY LAW IT MUST HAVE A BATTERY BACK UP BREAKAWAY!! NO IF ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT IT. had a real good friend killed and his wife in a wheel chair because of that same thing guy that killed Terry said he was sorry judge said 8 years but he was out in 18 months. i have no love for stupidity. ok now you can bit-h me out for being a hard a$$
I agree, that break away switches are good, but so far as I know they are not required on all trailers and all states.

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Old Roy agiin

04-14-2008 21:51:03




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to john *.?-!.* cub owner, 04-14-2008 10:35:47  
yup your right John.Here in PA under 3000# gross don't need brakes.but you do need 2 safty chains or cables. I don't know why, but it seems if you hook the hooks up through the rings on the hitch,they stay on better too.



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soundguy

04-14-2008 05:50:11




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
Only 1 safety chain?

soundguy



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davpal

04-13-2008 21:44:11




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
My cousin did the same thing with my car hauler trailer. My advice, other than not letting people use your trailers, is to be there when they get hooked up. They hooked it up and took off using what I considered to be a homemade ball that had the bolt going in rather than a stud with a nut. And then they wrapped the safety chains around the ball. They had to haul a utility tractor with a post hole digger. Went 20 miles to get it. Drove 20 back here, 20 more taking it home, and on the way back unloaded the ball came off, safety chains around ball. Trailer came up next to him and went through the median on the freeway crossing two lanes of traffic without hitting anybody and crashed through the fence of a horse pasture. Mangled the trailer up a bit. I was mortified that it had happened. People could have been wiped out. I am pretty much over letting my trailers go out on a whim now. Scared the heck out of all of us.

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paul

04-13-2008 21:34:36




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
My brotherinlaw was pulling a trailer well loaded behind a, hum, 2.5 ton or so truck, hitch broke off. The chains held up.

He got a hitch welded back on, continued on his way, & - it broke off again. The safety chains held. Again.

Both times he ended up pulling the trailer - real slow - to the next town with just the chains.

He got a much better welder to weld a much better hitch on the truck, and continued home. This ended up being a 3 day return trip, across 1/3 of the country or so.

I might point out I don't co-mingle business with my b-i-l much - seems to be a lot of risk involved.

Lot of different people out there on the roads.

--->Paul

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Leland

04-13-2008 21:20:01




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
how fast was he going at 60 mph thats 66 feet per second or 396' in 6 seconds ,this sounds like a fishing story the trailer goes further each time the story is told .



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Molineone

04-15-2008 18:15:39




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Leland, 04-13-2008 21:20:01  
I'm sure the story is true, no need to make a science lesson out of it. Chill out.



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davpal

04-14-2008 10:58:27




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Leland, 04-13-2008 21:20:01  
What school did you go to where a mile a minute is 66 feet per second? 5280 divided by 60 is 88. At least at my school it was.



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KEB1

04-13-2008 20:33:06




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
Did the trailer have brakes? How come the breakaway switch didn't activate & lock the brakes on the trailer?

Sounds like the trailer only had one safety chain? Where was the second one? I can't imagine breaking a chain unless it was grossly undersized.

Hat to be critical, but accidents happen when people take shortcuts, & from what you've said it sounds like there may have been a number of shortcuts taken. Were any tickets written?

Keith

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Joe Breshears

04-13-2008 19:10:33




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
Thanks for the reminder. Here's another: Just last week I visited with a family friend who now has one glass eye and the other which barely works. She walks with a walker, has a mangled hand, and has neurological damage because of which she can't control her emotions. She is lucky to be alive after crashing head-on into someone else's runaway trailer. We all need to be reminded that hooking up a trailer is Very Serious business. One little thoughtless slip and we can ruin other people's lives. God Bless You, Sir, for sharing your story. You too are very lucky. Joe

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NE IA

04-13-2008 18:36:35




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
At a tractor show in the big hills of NE IA I converted my double axle trailer with bus seats to haul folks around. As I went to eat a hamberger, I saw the trailer being backed up in a unusual place in the road way. After it came backwards twenty foot it stoped. Someone did not tighten the ball on the hitch. Approx two to three munites before they had climbed a very steep grade that was crowded with folks walking around. The grade was probably 500 ft, and about all the grade a auto could climb. Had it come unhooked with a large crowd three munites sooner with probably one hundred plus folks walking on the roadway---. My insurance man said never again, even though it was not my tractor, and my neglect. No one on the trailer so much as screemed. Gray hair is usualy caused by stress??

I'm guessing every attorney in the state of Iowa would be driving a new car if things had not been just right. There was only fifteen people on the trailer, and not one got off and went to the rest room.

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marlowe

04-13-2008 18:01:36




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
sorry but there was NO reason for that to have happened BY LAW IT MUST HAVE A BATTERY BACK UP BREAKAWAY!! NO IF ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT IT. had a real good friend killed and his wife in a wheel chair because of that same thing guy that killed Terry said he was sorry judge said 8 years but he was out in 18 months. i have no love for stupidity. ok now you can bit-h me out for being a hard a$$



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RayP(MI)

04-13-2008 17:39:02




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
A few years ago, I watched a trailer come off the back of a septic tank truck. Trailer had an industrial tractor/backhoe on it. Trailer hit a bump and came unengaged, followed truck for about 300 yards, before it drifted into the ditch, bounced off the embankment, back into the ditch, for another 50 yards before coming to rest. Fortunately upright, and tractor still aboard. Broke one axle on trailer. Seems that the operator had failed to fasten and pin the pintle hitch - no safety chains, no breakaway breaks on trailer. They had towed it 30 miles that way, before it came unhitched.

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wdTom

04-13-2008 17:31:27




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
I do as Scotty does and lift the back of the truck slightly to check the hitch up. I also put a padlock in the latach. Not only can't it fall out, but it provides a small amount of security whether the trailer is connected to the truck and I am away, or it is in my yard and I am not around. I run the wires through the padlock, and the brake cable too, they lead to the truck well on my rig like this.

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Tradititonal Farmer

04-13-2008 17:19:17




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
Where was the battery powered breakway switch set up? Should have locked the brakes



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fixerupper

04-13-2008 17:00:13




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
That's quite a story. Your uncle must be an experienced driver to do what he did to try to stop it. Most uf us can probably relate to this in some way.
I lost an empty single axle U Haul trailer once and it did the same thing, whipping back and forth until the chain broke. It ended up in the right ditch which happened to be shallow, so the nervous, shaking driver of the car I was meeting, and I pulled it back out by hand. Nothing hurt. Jim

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ScottyHOMEy

04-13-2008 16:54:16




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
Everybody got lucky on that one. Glad no one was hurt.

I know folks that use bolts to lock the latch on the hitch. It can be a pain in the neck and folks tend to skip it. I use a hairpin clevis or whatever it's called, a straight pin with the spring wire that's anchored to one end and the loop that springs up and back in to latch over the other. No muss, no fuss, no excuse not to use it.

The other thing I do when hitchin' up is to only let the trailer down enough on the jack to latch the hitch into place. Once I THINK I have the hitch latched down properly, I crank the jack back UP until I can clearly see that I'm liftin' the back of the truck, and then let it back down.

You said you were in your way in for a new ball. He wasn't pullin' it on a 2-inch was he?

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E.B. Haymakin'

04-13-2008 19:57:41




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to ScottyHOMEy, 04-13-2008 16:54:16  
I"m not throwing anything at you here, but when I was in the hardware business I had a customer swear up/down that testing the hitch like that can damage the lock on the ball hitch. He claimed to have experienced this first hand? Any thoughts, because I haven"t.



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ScottyHOMEy

04-13-2008 20:42:06




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to E.B. Haymakin', 04-13-2008 19:57:41  
I hear ya, and him.

It's always been kind of a wonder to me how little hardware there is holding the underside of the ball, but the way I do it I don't think there's any unacceptable strain on those parts. Keeping those parts adjusted as they wear is a whole other topic.

Only two points I can think of to address your concerns.

One is that many cases of the hitch coming off the ball result from it not being latched in properly. The most common cause is that some hitch (trailer-end) designs allow the latch to fall into a position that "looks right" when the pawl that should be under the ball has actually been forced closed OVER the ball (usually if the hitch is too far ahead of the center of the ball when lowered) so that it winds up resting on top, and can not help in holding the hitch to the ball when the trailer rocks to the rear. I had that experience once early on in my towing career

Hence the caution that has led me to test the hitch the way I do. I don't jack it high. I let the jack up enough to make sure it's resting on the ball, then latch it down and secure it with a pin. I then jack it back up enough to take the weight back off the ball (there's a slight pause in the rise of the hitch at that point) and then jack it beyond that point JUST enough to see that it's lifting the truck. Then raise the jack to traveling height.

And I'm not afraid of sticking my finger up inside to make sure the pawl is UNDER the ball. Wiping the grease off my finger is a small price to pay for knowing my hitch will hold.

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Kevin in OK

04-13-2008 17:12:18




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to ScottyHOMEy, 04-13-2008 16:54:16  
No, his was also 2 5/16", the latch just wasn't bolted down and it came unhitched. We got the tire changed and the trailer rehitched, then got to the shop and got everything put back together correctly, bolt on the hitch, new wiring where it needed it, new chains (big ones), and straightened out the trailer fender. I got a 2 5/16" ball, and was on my way Thursday.

Correction, accident happened Wednesday evening.

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Keith-OR

04-13-2008 16:41:15




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
Kevin, that is why all my trailers have 2 safety chains,3/8 or larger also law requires 2. Always X the chains under the coupler (R-side trailer hooks L-side of tow vehicle, L-side of trailer hooks to R-side of tow vehicle). I've had a coupler break years back and front(broken coupler) of trailer tried to dig into the pavement, since then I have been crossing chains under the tongue, if trailer get loose for some unknown reason Xed chains will keep tongue off the ground and trailer halfway under control.

I have never pulled a trailer with just one safety chain , and I would not pull one across the street with only one safety chain!!!

Someone was really lucky, could have been real serious accident. Shore glad to hear no one was hurt or killed...

Keith & Shawn(Special Olympic Gold medelist)

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Larry D.

04-13-2008 16:22:39




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
Wheww!!I'm glad that it turned out Well... Glad No One was Hurt, Reminds me to Double Check EVERYTHING before Starting Up, Thanks for the Informative Posts.. Larry KF4LKU



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Larry D.

04-13-2008 16:22:11




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 Re: Towing Safety Reminder, Long Story in reply to Kevin in OK, 04-13-2008 16:01:21  
Wheww!!I'm glad that it turned out Well... Glad No One was Hurt, Reminds me to Double Check EVERYTHING before Starting Up, Thanks for the Informative Posts.. Larry KF4LKU



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