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Improvements to the Farm Tractor 1890-Present

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Brian L. Thomps

03-03-2008 16:31:50




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I am currently working on a presentation for an one of my Agriculture Mechanization Classes at Clemson University and I was just wanting to get everyone's ideas on what were the major improvements to tractor technology between 1890-present day. These improvements would include such topics as the conversion from steam to gas then gas to diesel, safety features, electrical systems, 3 point hitch, pto, rubber tires, gps systems, and even general improvements to safety and comfort of the operator. Therefore, I was just wanting to know which improvements everyone would consider to be the most important improvement to the modern day tractor. Also feel free to mention any other improvements and their impact. Thanks for your time and help.

Brian L. Thompson

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DiyDave

03-04-2008 16:22:23




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 Re: Improvements to the Farm Tractor 1890-Present in reply to Brian L. Thompson, 03-03-2008 16:31:50  
Lets see how many I can remember(suggest that you check out C.H. Wendell's book, the Allis Chalmers story)
1. First rubber tired tractor
2. First to develop spin out rear wheels, and power asssisted front wheelspacing.
3. First turbocharged diesel motor.
4. First sound reducing cab.
I think there are about 3 or 4 more. Oh, these were ALL pioneered by A-C!



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4 Bottom

03-04-2008 05:43:20




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 Re: Improvements to the Farm Tractor 1890-Present in reply to Brian L. Thompson, 03-03-2008 16:31:50  
My 2 cents: I believe the 70s were the pinnical of tractor devolopment so far. The tractors can do most things that new tractors can do now and you can work on them. New tractors are a dealers delight just like cars,everthing has to go back to the dealer. Just reciently had to reprogram/ recalabrate a trans in a new holland. This tractor does no more than older ones. Hyd were just as effecient etc in older tractors. The industry will be hard pressed to produce better tractors than the 56 and 66 series Int and the 20 and 30 series JDs and others of this era.

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dej(jed)

03-04-2008 05:01:30




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 Re: Improvements to the Farm Tractor 1890-Present in reply to Brian L. Thompson, 03-03-2008 16:31:50  
There have been no improvements. It is now a losing proposition .



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rednekelmo

03-03-2008 21:06:23




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 Re: Improvements to the Farm Tractor 1890-Present in reply to Brian L. Thompson, 03-03-2008 16:31:50  
hydraulics hydraulics hydraulics!the least respected most over looked advancement in the tractor. they shift your gears, can replace your gears, steer your tractor,make your seat ride better,make your whole tractor ride better,operate the much hyped but now seldom used 3point hich work the cluth,make the tractor stop better do many things I'm forgeting to mention and oh yeah I can not only raie and lower thousands of pounds at each end of the field by flicking my finger but when the field is finished I can sit on my lazy @$$ and reconfigure that same pice of equipment for road transport with the same finger I use to wave at my X-wife

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2t2@ia

03-03-2008 20:59:38




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 Re: Improvements to the Farm Tractor 1890-Present in reply to Brian L. Thompson, 03-03-2008 16:31:50  
One of the more important is improvement in creature comfort. Such things as seat design, suspension, cabs, AC and heater, more ergonomic placement of controls, steps, etc. "Self starters" while just expected for 60 or more years, were a great improvement when they first were offered.



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MarkB_MI

03-03-2008 18:25:04




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 Re: Improvements to the Farm Tractor 1890-Present in reply to Brian L. Thompson, 03-03-2008 16:31:50  
I think the first major improvement was when manufacturers settled on what is today pretty much the standard configuration: Two large traction wheels in back, steering wheels in front, with the operator riding between the rear wheels. If you get a chance to see some of the pre-war designs, there were a lot of horrible configurations. Some were even steered by reins, like the tractor was a team of horses.

The internal combustion engine was a big improvement over steam, but it was inevitable once it took hold in automobiles that it would be the engine of choice in farm tractors.

Certainly the three-point hitch was a major development for safety and utility. And the power takeoff was a big step forward from belt pulleys. (belts being a holdover from steam engine days.)

I would say that pretty much all improvements in tractor technology have been evolutionary rather than revolutionary. Automatic transmissions, hydraulics, power steering, electric starting, four wheel drive all came about because the technology was available. Very few developments originated with tractors. The Ferguson 3-point hitch system is a notable exception.

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NE IA

03-04-2008 07:39:15




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 Re: Improvements to the Farm Tractor 1890-Present in reply to MarkB_MI, 03-03-2008 18:25:04  
Mark you mentioned reins on a tractor to operate it as a bad thing. That tractor used that as a sales pitch. It probably makes no sence to the younger crowd, but if your manure spreader was horse drawn you could sit on the seat and put the spreader in gear. Cow barns were often built with a alley behind the cows to place the spreader for loading, you could move the tractor forward without geting on (just like a horse). You also could load a load of hay, or rather level the load on the hayrack (loose hay) or load the bundles of oats / wheat and still run the tractor. It saved a man or kid on the tractor and put him to work loading the wagon.

Often you had a plow with a seat, again you could operate the plow and if needed kick the corn stocks thru with your foot. Often corn stalks would plug a plow real bad.

You could also save some corn with a stick while cultivating with your horse drawn cultivator if you coverd some up. Also cultivators were moved sidways with your feet to keep it on the row.

A single disk needed the operators weight to make it cut the corn stalks, and when you got to a mud hole you could climb off and still operate the tractor.

The tractor took over the horses, and the implments were not up to speed, and if so farmers could not afford them and a tractor.

I'm not certian if that was as good as auto steer, or GPS operating systems now days, but probably just a good start compared to a tired horse at the end of the day.

I have heard that numerous farmers were injured trying to tie the reins in a nuteral position and the tractor responding to the wind blowing the reins, unlike the old horse that would gladly just stand there.

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RayP(MI)

03-03-2008 18:09:04




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 Re: Improvements to the Farm Tractor 1890-Present in reply to Brian L. Thompson, 03-03-2008 16:31:50  
Power steering and hydraulic lift - hands down!



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Armand Tatro

03-03-2008 17:41:39




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 Re: Improvements to the Farm Tractor 1890-Present in reply to Brian L. Thompson, 03-03-2008 16:31:50  
The 3 point hitch was not complete until the "quickhitches" came along! Also the quickhitches sure made life much easier when installed on combines to change headers and platforms, loaders to change buctets, forklifts, and other atachments, and also for backhoe bucket changes. Believe me it was no fun before the quickatach options came along. Armand



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K.B.-826

03-03-2008 17:40:16




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 Re: Improvements to the Farm Tractor 1890-Present in reply to Brian L. Thompson, 03-03-2008 16:31:50  
Transmissions- in the early years you might have had two speeds, then three, four, five, and six speeds, mostly with hand clutches came along. The foot clutch quickly caught on. The biggest advances came in the 50's-60's with partial powershifts, full powershifts, and hydrostatic drives. Today's machines can have anything from fully syncronized manuals, power-reversers, or computer-controlled powershifts that allow for automitic shifting.

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495man

03-03-2008 16:42:08




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 Re: Improvements to the Farm Tractor 1890-Present in reply to Lou, 03-03-2008 16:31:50  

Brian L. Thompson said: (quoted from post at 17:31:50 03/03/08) I am currently working on a presentation for an one of my Agriculture Mechanization Classes at Clemson University and I was just wanting to get everyone's ideas on what were the major improvements to tractor technology between 1890-present day. These improvements would include such topics as the conversion from steam to gas then gas to diesel, safety features, electrical systems, 3 point hitch, pto, rubber tires, gps systems, and even general improvements to safety and comfort of the operator. Therefore, I was just wanting to know which improvements everyone would consider to be the most important improvement to the modern day tractor. Also feel free to mention any other improvements and their impact. Thanks for your time and help.

Brian L. Thompson


I see each as an evolution

Biggest improvement 1900-1920: internal combustion engine

1920-1930 power take off / row crop design (Farmall)

1930-1940 rubber tires

1940-1950 diesel power

1950-1960 hydraulics more common place

1960-1970 final entire industry acceptance of Ferguson 3pt (standardization)

1970-1980 safety improvement ROPS

1980-1990 A/C heated pressurized quiet safety cabs common place (Deere initiated in 70's)

1990-2000 electrical monitoring / improved diagnostics

2000-2008 GPS

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newfarmer9

03-03-2008 16:38:33




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 Re: Improvements to the Farm Tractor 1890-Present in reply to Brian L. Thompson, 03-03-2008 16:31:50  
My vote would go to 3PTH and PTO. Two pretty significant and useful inventions right there.



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Lanse

03-03-2008 16:37:36




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 Re: Improvements to the Farm Tractor 1890-Present in reply to Brian L. Thompson, 03-03-2008 16:31:50  
I think that Gas engines are the best thing, they made the tractor availiable to most people instead of huge expensive steamers. Everything elce you listed was an add on. My 1 cent worth, i wish i had 2 cents



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