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NLGI 000 grease - what is the equivalent ?

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Billy NY

08-29-2007 11:17:40
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What is the equivalent of NLGI 000 grease ? Is it 85W-90WT ?

Just curious as it's for a rotary cutter gear box, just got the Servis Rhino book for it, calls for NLGI 000, so I got er flipped over and drained out the chocolate milk in the gear box. Old lube looked ok except the color, no metal particulates like silver paint or chunks etc. Gear box does not leak at the shaft either, so after some other repairs it ought to be good to go.

Have to admit to the great achievment of running over the tail wheel which fell off unbeknownst to me on the previous pass while it was getting dark (sure was quick to shut er off), got new blades, and after a careful visual inspection, I found a lot of broken welds on the deck, and a few small stress cracks on the pan, all minor, some grinding and some single passes with 1/8" 7018 ought to take care of them, almost a good thing this happened, eventually that deck could have come apart, and the blades were quite hammered, they take a lot of abuse that is for sure.

Still looking for the outer rim with the tire segements on this one, little different than others, someone mentioned it being the same on a King Cutter, the rest is not damaged, worst case, have to go for a complete new assembly. Darned parts diagram is vague on the part number, have to guess as it could be one of many part numbers.

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soundguy

08-30-2007 06:09:24
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 Re: NLGI 000 grease - what is the equivalent ? in reply to Billy NY, 08-29-2007 11:17:40  
Bow.. that lamintated tire does look similar to a KK now that you mention it!

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Billy NY

08-30-2007 06:24:27
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 Re: NLGI 000 grease - what is the equivalent ? in reply to soundguy, 08-30-2007 06:09:24  
Hopefully it is, most have the the in the center, this one seperates at the seam of those bolts, on half carries the axle pin, and has a grease fitting, the other appears to just have the outer rim, large diameter hole and the tire segments, sure would be nice to find just that rim, as it's all I need.



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soundguy

08-30-2007 06:39:37
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 Re: NLGI 000 grease - what is the equivalent ? in reply to Billy NY, 08-30-2007 06:24:27  
Good luck on the rim.. I think most of them today are tack welded. Though i have seen some 2-part small reims for pneumatic wheel barrow tires.. etc.

And also larger bolt together rims for aircraft tires like batwings use.. etc..

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soundguy

08-29-2007 11:42:57
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 Re: NLGI 000 grease - what is the equivalent ? in reply to Billy NY, 08-29-2007 11:17:40  
Well.. you are asking what spec is equivalent to your needed spac.. Guess what.. NLGI 000


JD cornhead grease fits that bill.. otherwise visit a -real- grease / petrochemical dealer and you can get 0# grease from them..

When i havn't been able to find 0# grease for an app that needed it.. i used #2 or 4 grease and then cut it with a little 140wt gear oil.. enough to make it the sticky soupy mess that 0# is. You can sometimes also find 0# greases 9 pourable lubes ).. in places that service marine and golf course equipment.. i know some rhino dealers carry it.. etc..

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Billy NY

08-29-2007 13:34:28
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 Re: NLGI 000 grease - what is the equivalent ? in reply to soundguy, 08-29-2007 11:42:57  
Hey now, that's ok, it is what it is literally in this case !

I've always paid attention to specifications, hate guessing and just dumping something in, my favorite childhood tractor was done in by someone doing that to our 64 4000 S-O-S, when changing the trans fluid, say around 1980, friend of my dads, honest mistake, best of intentions, and he worked in an Atomic Power lab ! Never forgot that one, and the lack of a tractor for the longest time, times were not the best back then.

This must be close in proximity to what is called for on the old Caterpillar track rollers, which I think was very similar to a 00, but not the same, track roller grease, stringy/tacky like chainsaw bar oil, believe some use cornhead grease there too. Well in my travels, I'll stop by the local oil distributor and see, we also have a big lawn mower, irrigation small engine place nearby, they may have it as well, they sell and service all kinds of equipment.

Same thing with the rear end on the hundred series, is it GL 4 or GL 5 you have to be careful about for bronze bushings or parts in the rear ?

And so the 85W-90WT types are obviously a different lube, I did a search to see if I could find information explaining the different types, no luck so I asked here, thanks, much appreciated.

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soundguy

08-30-2007 06:06:37
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 Re: NLGI 000 grease - what is the equivalent ? in reply to Billy NY, 08-29-2007 13:34:28  
Yep.. in the rear end of the NAA and up tractors that have seperate compartments, you can use 85/140 or 80w90 or 75w90 gear oil.. pretty much any flavor.

OR you can use UTF.

Good luck on the 000 grease. I'm guessing you will find it or at least the JD cornhead grease. Wost case is you make do with some #2 and gear oil to make it pourable.

Some things are prtty tolerant. A gearbox on a big mower I have states it can run 80w90, 85/140 or 0# grease... I split the difference between grease and gear oil... been working good for years.

soundguy

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freedy60

09-03-2007 15:53:19
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 Re: NLGI 000 grease - what is the equivalent ? in reply to soundguy, 08-30-2007 06:06:37  
Been on the internet may six hours, found one company overtly advertising it. Rhino says Mobil, Sun, Chevron, Gulf all distribute it, can"t find a distributor that"s ever heard of it. Can"t find a Rhino dealer that"s heard of it. VERY frustrating. Calling the factory tomorrow and raising hell, I"d already pumped my gear box dry before finding I need this stuff.
Anybody finds the equivalent please let me know.

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freedy60

09-05-2007 05:15:14
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 Re: NLGI 000 grease - what is the equivalent ? in reply to freedy60, 09-03-2007 15:53:19  
After three days looking everywhere for NLGI 000, I spoke with the Rhino tech department concerning a substitute for NLGI 000 in my gearbox. Guy there (hopefully an engineer) says don't worry, just use 90w. He then went on to say that NLGI 000 grease is nothing more than 90 weight with a thickening additive. When asked why they specify something that obscure if the usual gear lube works fine, I was told it's to prevent maybe losing the lube from the gear box (bad seal or crack) when it's stored in the off season. He might be right, if I'm dumb enough to lose three days of mowing and spend three days chasing this ghost grease, I might be dumb enough not to make sure I've got lube in the gear box in the spring.

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soundguy

09-04-2007 04:54:28
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 Re: NLGI 000 grease - what is the equivalent ? in reply to freedy60, 09-03-2007 15:53:19  
Try a JD dealer ( cornhead grease )

Soundguy



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freedy60

09-05-2007 12:39:05
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 Re: NLGI 000 grease - what is the equivalent ? in reply to soundguy, 09-04-2007 04:54:28  
Soundguy,
Thanks for the response, did find that the JD dealers in my area only stock NGLI 0. I was looking for 000.



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soundguy

09-05-2007 12:53:47
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 Re: NLGI 000 grease - what is the equivalent ? in reply to freedy60, 09-05-2007 12:39:05  
Was worth a try. you might have to break down and find a real petro dealer and order a case.

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Billy NY

08-30-2007 06:35:02
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 Re: NLGI 000 grease - what is the equivalent ? in reply to soundguy, 08-30-2007 06:06:37  
Well if it does not turn up, I'm sure something will work as a substitute, manufacturer may be helpful there. I'm not sure what the availability is or if it's obsolete, but there must be a reason for that type, one would think 90 wt would be fine, but maybe due to the application, shock loading or design of the gear box, it is what's needed. What came out of it sure looked, felt and smelled like 90 WT.

The old style crawler track rollers call for a lube that is mostly obsolete, however there are a few products that are very close to the original and work fine, only a few manufacturers offer it, might be a similar case here, the oil distributor will know.

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soundguy

08-30-2007 06:41:58
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 Re: NLGI 000 grease - what is the equivalent ? in reply to Billy NY, 08-30-2007 06:35:02  
If you do find a lube that crosses over or supercedes it.. post the #'s.. as it will be stored here in the archives for others to see in case they ever need it.. etc.

good luck

Soundguy



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