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Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires

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Neil T

05-16-2007 05:25:52

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Just got a JD 2020 gasser with a nice 48 loader. I'm having trouble with one of the rear tires seeping chloride. I did the obvious things, tightened up the valve core, and replaced the cap with a metal cap with a gasket, but still leaking some. Anyway, I need to have the tube repaired or replaced.

Looking for advice on fluid: Should I ditch the fluid? Use anti-freeze instead? How about "Rim-guard"? Is it much more expensive? Just trying to make an informed decision on what way to go. Thanks in advance for the thoughts.

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buickanddeere

05-16-2007 15:16:57

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to Neil T, 05-16-2007 05:25:52

What's best depends on who you ask. It can't do any harm to check the Firestone site in the Ag section and read up what works in instrumented test conditions. The seat of the pants dyno lacks accuracy. As for corrosion. Why would have salt water around your expensive metal when it doesn't have to be there?

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Glenn F.

05-16-2007 09:36:46

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to Neil T, 05-16-2007 05:25:52

If you've got heavy ground and use the tractor for heavy tillage, there's no substitute for fluid in the tires. You won't believe the difference in traction!

Weight equivalent in wheel weights is pretty hard to achieve.

Glenn

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Don-Wi

05-16-2007 09:04:06

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to Neil T, 05-16-2007 05:25:52

Just replace the core, and if ya have the pros come out just for that it'll be the worst $100 you ever spent. Park it with the valve stem up, remove the old core and put the new one in. It's a 5 minute job at the most.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Neil T

05-16-2007 09:17:43

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to Don-Wi, 05-16-2007 09:04:06

Is it important to have the fluid over top of the rim? That's the way the are "supposed" to be.

I might as well try a new core. I've got nothing to lose there. It really doesn't seem to be seeping from the cap however, but it's good to try the simple stuff.

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RAB

05-16-2007 09:35:55

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to Neil T, 05-16-2007 09:17:43

IF you are worried at breaking something, jack the tractor and support on blocks, so the weight is just taken off that wheel. Worst that can happen is a small amount of fluid loss and probably none as the tyre may accomodate more fluid in this repose. Simple, eh?
Regards, RAB

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Don-Wi

05-16-2007 09:27:03

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to Neil T, 05-16-2007 09:17:43

As long as there are tube in the tire, fluid really doesn't have to be over the top of the rim. The main thing is that both sides are the same level. The reason to get the valve stem on top when changing out is so that as little fluid as possible escapes while doing the switch out.

Wear safety glasses too, as that stuff can be real nasty in the eyes!!

Donovan from Wisconsin

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sd pete

05-16-2007 08:58:50

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to Neil T, 05-16-2007 05:25:52

I have had fluid filled tires for 35 years and never had a rim rust out.

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Allan In NE

05-16-2007 10:44:45

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to sd pete, 05-16-2007 08:58:50

Well, yeah Pete,

But, don't ya think you ought to rush right out there, drain 'em all down and fill with the squirrels' juice just to be sure? :>)

Allan

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Neil T

05-16-2007 08:40:04

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to Neil T, 05-16-2007 05:25:52

Thanks for the comments. I just got the tractor about 2 weeks ago. The rims were a little rusty, but dry on the outside. However, I noticed the rear right tire is seeping. 14.9-28 size

I could replace the core, but I was afraid to remove it (break off inside, strip threads, etc). Plus, it looks like they (at least the ones Tractor Supply had) are made out of stainless steel. Chloride destroys the cheap grades of SS anyway, not sure what cores are made from.

Since this is my first real experience with filled tires, I'll call in the pros and see what they say. Thanks.

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Rob in Ore

05-16-2007 07:49:15

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to Neil T, 05-16-2007 05:25:52

I had this done in October of 2006.
My tires are 12.4-24.
One rear tube, $30; Rim Guard installed in both rears, $3.25/gal,$195 total; two hours labor for man with truck, $160. Total bill was $385 and they came to me with all of the tools. All I needed was a checkbook.

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Steven@AZ

05-16-2007 07:14:58

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to Neil T, 05-16-2007 05:25:52

Have had fluid filled tires at our farm for over 40 years. Never lost a rim due to corrosion - when the tire starts leaking, FIX IT! Then rinse/clean the rim off after the hole is patched. Only rims I've seen lost to corrosion are the ones that are not promptly repaired (such as my H that had been sitting for 15 years).

We even have fluid in the radials on our 2590 without tubes... in order for anything to rust, it will need a source of oxygen/air. If no air is getting in/exchanged there will be no rust.

Had a rim split on our 1086 a couple years back, the break was fresh and there was zero corrosion around it... just one of those freak things from 30 years of fatigue, I guess.

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JoeBob/IN

05-16-2007 09:25:15

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to Steven@AZ, 05-16-2007 07:14:58

Radials and fluid don't mix. Defeats the purpose of the radial tires, they don't flex like they should. Drain the fluid and add cast weight instead. Not my opinion but exactly what Goodyear, Firestone, and especially Michelin told me. Michelin guy was really adament about not using fluid in the tires! With duals he recommended running at 6 psi without a 3pt implement on our 2390.

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Mike w J

05-16-2007 21:30:02

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to JoeBob/IN, 05-16-2007 09:25:15

We have an 8960 JD That has tubeless tires on filled 1/2 full of fluid since it was a year old now has 4800 hours on 20.8 r 42 we run 8lbs in all tires on it I don't agree that radials don't work with fluid they will flatten out and cheek the sidewalls just like the ones that are dry on our 8770 maybe more we added fluid to stop power hop it was so bad you could not reach the throttle to slow it down with the cummins engine you can throttle back to 1100 rpm and then speed back up with any size load behind .

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Steven@AZ

05-16-2007 12:50:36

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to JoeBob/IN, 05-16-2007 09:25:15

Well, we already have a full set of cast iron weights on the tractor. Fluid made us go from power-hopping, spinning, and generally poor ride quality to a wonderfully useful machine.

And fluid is what was recommended by the Goodyear tire guy that came out. Radials and fluid works great, they still flex just fine.

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georgeky

05-16-2007 06:58:36

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to Neil T, 05-16-2007 05:25:52

To each his own, but I drained fluid from all my tires. I have lots of weights and use those instead. I have had several rims ruined over the years and just got tired of buying new rims. With a loader you may want to keep it if you don,t have weights. As mentioned you need to replace that valve with a new one. Just tightening them isn't enough sometimes the calcium destroys those too.

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Lou

05-16-2007 06:52:37

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to Neil T, 05-16-2007 05:25:52

I have a MF 50 that I just went through the whole works on . Bought a new rim, tube and tire, brought it to a local tire shop and they mounted it. I put the tire back on the tractor , bought the valve needed to fill the tire with fluid, and using a pump that runs off hand held drill filled it with windshield washer fluid. The entire job cost about $700. If I would have called the pros it probly costs $1500.Someone posted below that you may just need the valve, so check that first.

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MN Bob

05-16-2007 05:46:10

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to Neil T, 05-16-2007 05:25:52

Good subject, I think the fluid used is a personal choice for your area, another option is to use weights you can remove when you dont want a heavey footprint. If I can pose a side question, I hear you should park your tractor for extended periods with the valve up, (air not fluid at valve) others say the opposite. Not so much for leaks but for corrosion. I cant see where it would make a difference unless there is fluid between the tube and tire?? Thoughts??

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KRUSS1

05-16-2007 06:40:32

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to MN Bob, 05-16-2007 05:46:10

If you are going to park the tractor with BOTH tires with valves up you may have to be a bit of a planner. We always used to think we HAD to have fluid. My last two tractors (7800JD FWA duals and 8100JD FWA duals) have neither fluid or extra weight. Both pulled all they were ever meant to pull. There are books of info on the pros and cons of ballast.

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MN Bob

05-16-2007 07:38:51

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to KRUSS1, 05-16-2007 06:40:32

I agree on the pulling without weight, but its the loader robbing the rear (2 wheel drive) of traction that gives a reason for ballast. (in my experience at least). Bob

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IaGary

05-16-2007 05:32:36

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Re: Thoughts / Options on Fluid filled tires in reply to Neil T, 05-16-2007 05:25:52

If it is leaking from the valve stem you can just replace the outer end of it with a new valve core assembly.

The core assembly unscrews from the tube.

Gary

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