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Allan In NE

05-11-2007 18:10:58




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Hi All,

Finished sealing my summer fallow today.

I know I'm probably the last guy on the face of the earth who still likes these things, but I just think they are the best implement since the reaper.

If this patch were irrigated, it would be ready to plant to corn, but alas it is dryland so will have to wait until September 10 for some winter wheat. :>(

Allan

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Rick in IA.

05-11-2007 18:37:12




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 Re: Packin' in reply to Allan In NE, 05-11-2007 18:10:58  
Very interesting, makes sence. Never knew how that worked as we plant ( or try to) all the acres evey year. Wet conditions are given us fit's at the moment.

Hows the cattle like'n the new grass ?

Rick



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Allan In NE

05-11-2007 18:46:06




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 Re: Packin' in reply to Rick in IA., 05-11-2007 18:37:12  
Fed 'em and turned 'em out at 7am like a dummy. Grass was soppin' wet with dew and they were going for it like no tomorrow.

Had visions of all critters laying dead in an hour from bloat. :>(

So, I brought 'em back in and let 'em free choice some hay until the dew burned off; finally got 'em out at around 10am. Checked 'em an hour ago and all is well out there.

Well, other than the fact that they act kinda lost in that big pasture. :>)

Allan

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Nat 2

05-11-2007 21:05:08




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 Re: Packin' in reply to Allan In NE, 05-11-2007 18:46:06  
Wow you coddle your animals... In 30 years Dad has had one die of bloat, and that one ate a bunch of leaves off a maple tree that got shot down by lightning the night before. His cows go out day and night in the summer. Then again, they don't really like fresh grass, the spoiled buggers.



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Krazy -Ken

05-11-2007 18:18:11




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 Re: Packin' in reply to Allan In NE, 05-11-2007 18:10:58  
At last a close up of that one lone tree. Ken



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Allan In NE

05-11-2007 18:21:23




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 Re: Packin' in reply to Krazy -Ken, 05-11-2007 18:18:11  
It is probably one of my most favorite trees out there. :>)

Allan



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Dug

05-11-2007 21:07:59




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 Re: Packin' in reply to Allan In NE, 05-11-2007 18:21:23  
And a fine tree it is! Elm?



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Rick in IA.

05-11-2007 18:17:20




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 Re: Packin' in reply to Allan In NE, 05-11-2007 18:10:58  
Hi Allen,

It sure does look like its ready for corn. Will you continue to work that this summer to keep the weeds down ? Is there any dry land corn grown in your neck of the woods ? How about dry land soybeans ?

Take care, Rick



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Allan In NE

05-11-2007 18:20:10




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 Re: Packin' in reply to Rick in IA., 05-11-2007 18:17:20  
Yes Sir,

After every rain, it has to be worked to keep it clean.

No, don't think there is a soybean within 400 miles of here; too darned dry. Dry edible beans are raised here under irrigation.

Allan



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Rick in IA.

05-11-2007 18:23:46




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 Re: Packin' in reply to Allan In NE, 05-11-2007 18:20:10  
Will you use the packer after rains or a field cultivater ?

Rick



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Allan In NE

05-11-2007 18:30:21




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 Re: Packin' in reply to Rick in IA., 05-11-2007 18:23:46  
Rule is to start deep and bring the tillage depth up with each successive trip and I like to use the field cultivator with sweeps.

Last pass is done with a rod weeder, which just rolls the top two inches of soil and maintains the moisture underneath.

Then ya plant and cross yer fingers. :>)

Allan



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mitch furness

05-11-2007 19:34:50




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 Re: Packin' in reply to Allan In NE, 05-11-2007 18:30:21  
Allan why wait till September to plant, is it that you dont get rain till then?? Why has this ground been in pasture for so long, is it cause it is marginal country or you just chose not to sow?

Cheers
Mitch



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Allan In NE

05-11-2007 20:02:50




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 Re: Packin' in reply to mitch furness, 05-11-2007 19:34:50  
Have no idea why it has been in pasture so long.

Like I was telling my neighbor today, this is about the 7th or 8th place I've brought new land into production. Dunno, maybe others just didn't wanna take the time or effort to break it out of sod. Also, this is big, expansive cattle country. Pasture is always at a premium.

Winter wheat needs to be planted in the fall so that it can go dormant over winter. Also, it takes two years worth of accumulated moisture to produce one crop out here in the "semi-arid" west. It is a “split the land” thing. While one crop is being “fallowed” and “resting”, the other crop (I.E. my last year’s summer fallow) is busy growing/producing wheat.

Allan

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Mike (WA)

05-12-2007 08:01:44




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 Re: Packin' in reply to Allan In NE, 05-11-2007 20:02:50  
In some of the dry but not REALLY dry parts of eastern Washington, they are doing wheat-barley-summer fallow, on a 3 year rotation. Seems to work OK most of the time, unless a couple dry years in a row and the wheat uses up all the moisture. The real arid parts are still on the 2 year, and its getting harder and harder to make it on 25 bushel wheat, no matter how many acres you have.



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mitch furness

05-12-2007 00:06:54




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 Re: Packin' in reply to Allan In NE, 05-11-2007 20:02:50  
OK Allan that makes sense. What sort of soils are you on, are they Vertosols as in cracking clays. What sort of effective rooting depth do you assume, we have similar looking soils here in Australia. They have a rooting depth of 2 metres and can store up to 250mm of plant available water. They wet up over summer or winter and then are planted every year to a crop. Little rain is needed through the growing season due to stored moisture. Most people on these big heavy soils chemical fallow here in Australia. We dont get your winter freeze thaw effect either. Keep up the pictures and comments I really enjoy them. Did you get the little IH tractor/mower home?

Mitch

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