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Using a disc to make a fireline

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Maxgussam

04-08-2007 14:38:39




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Hello-

I live in SW MO, and with all of the wood on the ground in the woods around my property, I want to cut a fireline to stop the inevetiable brush fires from coming over here.

I thought about using a 7 or 8" disc to cut a line in the grass.

Would this work? Is there a better way to do it? Anyone in SW MO got an old one they want to sell?

Any insights or advice would be helpful.

Thanks!

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Jimmy King

04-08-2007 19:53:36




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 Re: Using a disc to make a fireline in reply to Maxgussam, 04-08-2007 14:38:39  
Where are you in SW MO??
Jim



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37 chief

04-08-2007 18:34:02




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 Re: Using a disc to make a fireline in reply to Maxgussam, 04-08-2007 14:38:39  
I do fire breakes here in calif. for properity owners who have grass right up to the house area. I use a 8 ft AC disc,which is quite heavy, and add extra weights if necessary. Here in Calif the fire departements reqire 100 ft. from structures. First 50 ft cleared, and the remaining 50 ft 50% thinned. Now because of the tree hugger group some cities will allow only mowing. which does provide a good fire break, but discing is a better way to go. Stan

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Walt Davies

04-08-2007 16:59:01




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 Re: Using a disc to make a fireline in reply to Maxgussam, 04-08-2007 14:38:39  
In the dry area in Calif. they use a large 20 or 30 ft. disc to put up fire guards around the fields they work to some degree but a good wind can blow that burning stuff a half mile or more..
Up here in Oregon we brush hog the fields to keep the fire danger down. Walt



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John S-B

04-08-2007 15:59:26




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 Re: Using a disc to make a fireline in reply to Maxgussam, 04-08-2007 14:38:39  
Wider is definitely better. Once you get the fire line disced it will be easy to maintain it. I would also look at clearing out all the downed debris on either side too. Keep the flammable growth a good distance from buildings. If you have a pond, pool or cistern, get a gas powered pump that can supply a fire hose, something in the neighborhood of 125gpm @ 100psi would be good. Also check with your local fire dept. or dept. of forestry to get advise.

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Maxgussam

04-08-2007 17:56:21




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 Re: Using a disc to make a fireline in reply to John S-B, 04-08-2007 15:59:26  
Thank you for the replies!
I think I will try and find an old plow.

The pump is in the works, as I have a pond close to the house and shop.

The fire depts response time is not as fast as it could be, so I need something to fight with while waiting.

Thanks Again-



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John S-B

04-08-2007 18:42:06




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 Re: Using a disc to make a fireline in reply to Maxgussam, 04-08-2007 17:56:21  
Also ask you're insurance agency what you can do to get your rates lowered, they may give a discount for a fire pump.



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georgrky

04-08-2007 15:54:35




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 Re: Using a disc to make a fireline in reply to Maxgussam, 04-08-2007 14:38:39  
Old has the right plan it is easier with the plow. We have done this for decades here. Not as much lately,but we use to burn fields every year and we would plow around them first as not to burn adjacent fields.



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Red Dave

04-08-2007 15:44:14




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 Re: Using a disc to make a fireline in reply to Maxgussam, 04-08-2007 14:38:39  
Sure it can work, and I've done it on field fires with some success. But if I was you, I would make the line 20 or 30 feet wide at a minimum. Wider is better and you can't just do it once and forget it either. It will have to be maintained for the entire fire season.

A fire driven by wind can jump an 8 foot fireline in less time than you can say "Oh, sh.."
Been there and seen it.



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old

04-08-2007 15:22:06




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 Re: Using a disc to make a fireline in reply to Maxgussam, 04-08-2007 14:38:39  
Conservation uses plows to do that. A disc will work but it takes a lot more passes to get it done. Now if you used both a plow and a disc thats even better. Then you just disc it once a week or so to keep things from growing back, or plant some wild life cover there that will stay good and green since good green stuff doesn't burn well. I know in my area a good disc is hard to find but you can find good used plows pretty easy, shoot I have 3 of them I have been tring to sell

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RayP(MI)

04-08-2007 14:51:41




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 Re: Using a disc to make a fireline in reply to Maxgussam, 04-08-2007 14:38:39  
Sounds like a plan, but you might want to hit it with a spray so grass doesn't come back.



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John (MO)

04-08-2007 14:51:06




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 Re: Using a disc to make a fireline in reply to Maxgussam, 04-08-2007 14:38:39  
Sure it will work. If, the disk is heavy enough to cut through any surface trash and get into the dirt enough to cover whatever you are disking under. 8 foot isn"t wide enough if you anything much over 3 feet tall that might burn. I`d go with about twice that wide. I`ve seen people try to make a fire line with a little lite disk in order to burn CRP. It is possible if you go over the same area enough times, but it may take a lot of trips.

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