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doug hixson

04-08-2007 07:52:02




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I recently bought a remote piece of property with an old International Harvester bulldozer on it. It looks to be from the 50's. What is the best way to find out what it is and what it is worth? Where is the line between restorable and scrap metal?




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JTinNJ

04-10-2007 00:44:34




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 Re: IH bulldozer in reply to doug hixson, 04-08-2007 07:52:02  
A dozer is a great machine to have. I bought a 1970 Massey Ferguson 2 years ago.Payed $2500.00 for it. It has an 85 HP Perkins in it,and, everything on it works. I got it to push out an overgrown field of cedar trees. I have used it for more than I ever dreamed of useing it for.I can say that,that was the best $2500.00 bucks I have ever spent.



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Billy NY

04-08-2007 11:46:03




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 Re: IH bulldozer in reply to doug hixson, 04-08-2007 07:52:02  
The difference is usually defined by how much money you need to invest to make the crawler operable, and for how many hours you can get out of it for what you will invest.

The most important component that will define this in cost is the undercarriage. If the tractor requires extensive undercarriage work, replacing or rebuilding parts, those costs will usually exceed the value of the machine, even if 100% restored. Sometimes people will not care what the costs are because it's the type of machine they want. Depends on what you want to do for your money.

Measuring and analyzing an undercarriage provides a lot of useful information that can help you figure out what to spend some $$ on to get some extra or renewed service life, sometimes you may be able to piece a tractor together if you can find salvage parts for the U/C in better condition than what you have. It also helps you extend service life if you can assess what rebuild options you have for a particular component. If the tractor's U/C is close to being run to destruction, most times it's scrap for an obsolete older tractor, unless you can piece it together. If it's 70% worn, you might be able to do a few things that will keep it if good enough shape longer than what the 30% left will give you, that may be plenty for a farm application, but not for a large task like putting it to hard work doing excavation.

Things like final drives, drive train components, and other areas of the tractor are also important to it's condition. If it's a running tractor, that has some undercarriage issues or measures up to better than expected, it might worth repairing and servicing for use.

Prior use, if abused, might reveal poorly made repairs on track frames, or on component housings, final drive issues, caterpillar seemed to have the edge on final drive strength over most of the competitors in that era, so I mention prior useage being important, and to check them out for problems. Don't mean IH's are bad by any means, different design with their own characteristics. Check all the components carefully, look for loose sprockets, metal pieces in the final drive compartments, see if you can measure the undercarriage or look for signs of heavy wear, check fluids, similar to other kinds of tractors or equipment. A lot of people find these easier to work on than others, designs vary and so does ones ability to work on them. I'm currently working on a larger caterpillar with an almost new undercarriage, I don't think I'll wear it out in my lifetime given the amount of time it gets used, really handy on a farm or if you have some acres to work on.

If it's got a stuck engine and nice undercarriage, could be repaired, and put back in service. If it's got stuck engine, been outside, poor undercarriage, stuck steering clutches or other similar problems, probably a lot of work involved, although some people have tore them down and brought em back from being a scrap candidate, why it's important to look it over carefully. Some of what ends up in the scrap yards or has been left in the weeds is a shame, lot of em can be used for something, even if parts only.

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two mile

04-08-2007 10:46:26




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 Re: IH bulldozer in reply to doug hixson, 04-08-2007 07:52:02  
We own an International TD-9. It has been a great little farm dozer. Cosmetically, this is the ugliest piece of equipment that we own, but not worth fixing up until we are done using it. Brush and trails through the woods are risky tasks. Mechanically, it has been quite reliable considering its age, and condition. It is diesel with glow plugs and it will start at any temperature above 15 degreees. I would quess it to be 75-80 hp. The transmission has 4 forward and 2 reverse gears, very well grouped. We bought this one several years ago for about $5000.00 If you use a little common sense when opperating it, it has tremendous capability. I wouldn't want to put in a 40 hour week opperating it, those clutches and brakes will do more for you than any gym membership. I would say that if you are able to get yours running, that you will find it handy to have around. Only you know the condition of your machine and how that matches your mechanical ability. Keep us posted what you decide.

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Paul from MI

04-08-2007 10:13:10




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 Re: IH bulldozer in reply to doug hixson, 04-08-2007 07:52:02  
If you take a few pictures and post them, either here or on the IH forum someone will have an idea. Difference between scrap and restorable can depend on how rare the tractor is and how bad somebody wants one. Most anything can be restored with enough time and money, it"s how bad do you want to do it.
Paul



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Yugrotcart

04-08-2007 08:34:01




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 Re: IH bulldozer in reply to doug hixson, 04-08-2007 07:52:02  
Biggest things determaning value are, how complete the unit is, is the engine siezed. As far as being able to restore it, all depends on the individual. My first restoration was scrap. Spent alot of time and way to much money. I wanted to do it, so I did.

Paul



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