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rrlund

03-30-2007 14:41:47




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Anybody doesn't believe how rough things are here in Michigan,here's a story for you. There is a dairy farm about 5 miles from me as the crow flys. They had an ad in the local paper last weekend saying they were going to start taking applications for laborers this past Monday. I talked to a guy at an auction today who had worked for the prevoius owner. He said he went up there to check it out. Said when he got there,they had had 735 applicants! That's a lot of people despirate enough to milk cows and scrape manure. So much for jobs Americans won't do. You'd be amazed what they will do when the unemployment runs out.

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two mile

03-30-2007 18:51:26




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 Re: O/T Dairy Help in reply to rrlund, 03-30-2007 14:41:47  
The economics aren't difficult to figure out. Agriculture is one of the few industries that generates wealth. When ag is doing poorly, so goes the rest of the economy, it just lags behind a little. Just look at what the last several years have been, Beans around $5.00, and corn hovering around $2.00. Our margins have not been spectacular so there was little left for us to spend back into the economy. Some of the livestock has done OK but that is just a piece of the pie. Anyhow, now that we have better pricing opportunities, there will ultimatly be more $$$ begin to circulate and the entire economy will improve. What Reagan said years ago is still very true, the trickle down theory is real. Let's hope for everyones sake that our Washington "friends" don't get too tax happy in the meantime. Sorry if I went a little OT.

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jdemaris

03-30-2007 17:18:30




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 Re: O/T Dairy Help in reply to rrlund, 03-30-2007 14:41:47  
I wonder what's different there, then here in New York. Hiring farm help is getting close to impossible. Can't hire kids in the summer anymore for haying. And, to get anybody full-time for barn work means the pay and benefits have to exceed what welfare/medicaid hands out. Most people collecting those benefits get better healthcare and dental-work than people that work for their money. My neighbor retired early and quit dairy farming last year - mainly because he could not get help unless he paid twice what he was making himself. The largest dairy-farm in town built tenant housing and has a bunch fo Eastern-European migrant workers. Another ex-dairy farm nearby has a new owner raising certified organic beef - and also has tenant housing with migrant Eastern European and Mexican workers. Now, again - I'm in central New York - dairy farming area. I don't know why it's different in your part ofMichigan, but it hasn't appeared to be that way in areas I've been to lately. I just got back from Posen - a potato farming area in Northern Michigan - lower Peninsula. I was also up to Paradise, Newberry, and Grand Marais in the Upper Peninsula. Been looking to buy land, and was kind of hoping prices would drop because of the Detroit cut-backs. But, if anything, prices have gone up - and in some areas, Realtors tell me there is MORE money being spent, not less. Perhaps due to the many early retirements and employee buy-outs. Maybe parts of Michigan don't give away taxpayers money as freely as here in NY?

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rrlund

03-31-2007 07:23:28




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 Re: O/T Dairy Help in reply to jdemaris, 03-30-2007 17:18:30  
I'm not going to get political about it and blame our Canadian Governor,I know there is another forum for that, but here in the county where I am in mid Mi,unemployment is between 12 and 15%. It isn't just the Detroit area. If somebody is planning to hire 20 people a year from now it makes the 6 o'clock news. There are stories around here like you've heard from the Great Depression. I was at Board of Review a few weeks ago. A guy was all excited,his brother in law works at a factory that is still open and told him that they were going to need 10 people for a weeks work,that's FOR A WEEK,not IN A WEEK. He told him where to be and when if he wanted the job. He thought he had a pretty good chance since the brother in law already worked there. We had people comming in wanting poverty exemptions who had NO INCOME. Their unemployment had run out,spouse wasn't working..... If this was the politics and OT forum I'd give you my real OPINION of what's going on in this state,but I won't here.

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rrlund

03-31-2007 07:23:23




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 Re: O/T Dairy Help in reply to jdemaris, 03-30-2007 17:18:30  
I'm not going to get political about it and blame our Canadian Governor,I know there is another forum for that, but here in the county where I am in mid Mi,unemployment is between 12 and 15%. It isn't just the Detroit area. If somebody is planning to hire 20 people a year from now it makes the 6 o'clock news. There are stories around here like you've heard from the Great Depression. I was at Board of Review a few weeks ago. A guy was all excited,his brother in law works at a factory that is still open and told him that they were going to need 10 people for a weeks work,that's FOR A WEEK,not IN A WEEK. He told him where to be and when if he wanted the job. He thought he had a pretty good chance since the brother in law already worked there. We had people comming in wanting poverty exemptions who had NO INCOME. Their unemployment had run out,spouse wasn't working..... If this was the politics and OT forum I'd give you my real OPINION of what's going on in this state,but I won't here.

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Easy1

03-31-2007 05:34:17




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 Re: O/T Dairy Help in reply to jdemaris, 03-30-2007 17:18:30  
Real estate is going global. We have the europoens buying vacation properties and farms. Some of the biggest dairies in Michigan are owned by Dutch farmers. A few acres in the old country is worth a couple hundred here. And as far as repos, the banks aint giving anything away.



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Allan In NE

03-30-2007 14:46:43




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 Re: O/T Dairy Help in reply to rrlund, 03-30-2007 14:41:47  
Yep,

That is a dirty, filthy man-killer of a job when the cows/operation doesn't belong to you.

Doesn't seem so bad if it's your own show.

Allan



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