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Keith-OR

01-17-2007 22:48:57

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This is what I posted on the Farmall Forum...

I just got off the phone with Old, the ice storm has gotten them. They have been without power since Sat. at 10:30, luckly they still have phone service. He is heating part of his house with camping heater, all water is frozen. Hauling water from pond in buckets to water stock. He kinda thinks when temp outside rises he will have lots of broken water lines. Good thing family is coping under situation,But getting bored as all they have is radio. No power to run computer.
He had his folks moved to a shelter as it is hard on the elderly under these conditions.

I will try to keep in touch with him, and update situation. Only thing is I wish I was closer to give him some help...But will be in my prayers.

Keith & Shawn

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E.B. Haymakin'

01-19-2007 19:19:47

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Keith-OR, 01-17-2007 22:48:57

Like doog doog said-carbon monoxide, be careful with generators. Keep them out doors, and dont overload the unit. I'm on the Gulf Coast, and generators are a necessity. With the threat of ice storms up north, I believe a greater necessity. In olds defense who would have thought to have a 200 year ice storm disaster. I'm sure a generator was on the to do list when he got around to it. Like Rusty said, we obtain assets as money allows. Best of luck old.

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Oldmax

01-18-2007 20:53:53

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Keith-OR, 01-17-2007 22:48:57

Sorry to hear about Bad weather in MO haven't heard from brother-n-law in Buycrus MO since storm . Some times if you look around you can find small power units real cheap .People buy them and keep a few years let set with Gas in tank when they go to start them no luck . I have two units I have purchased for less than $100 one is 2700 watts & other is 5500 watts both units all I had to do was clean Carb & gas tank & 5500 watt unit I also had to Flash the fields to get going . I added Electric starter to 5500 watt unit & use it for back up power for home also have wood heat for back up . These units are Contractor units but do good job as back ups .

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Mike Cummings

01-18-2007 18:54:32

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Keith-OR, 01-17-2007 22:48:57

I have asked questions on this board and "Old" was always there to respond.With his time and expertise.I thank you "Old" and wish you and your family the best in these trying times.Mike

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J BLILER

01-18-2007 14:15:44

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Keith-OR, 01-17-2007 22:48:57

Well we live 15 miles north of Springfield Mo in Fair GroveWe got by without a generator just fine. However the propane camping gear was a blessinglanterns and the campstove were great. Neibors ran a generator so that their kids could watch TV. Little goofy! Would like to have had one for about three hours a day. Some well water and a little heat from the furnace would have fixed most of it for us then a neibor could have had the power next Six familys could share a generator if they would think!!!!! !!!

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Raleigh boulware

01-18-2007 11:08:46

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Keith-OR, 01-17-2007 22:48:57

Dear LORd please have mercy on this family in this time of need LORD. We pray that things would not get any worse then what they are. We especially pray for good health and that no one would get sick. We also ask that the damage would not be that bad andthat they would be able to reover quickly.

We ask this in the name of Jesus AMAN

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Robert Searcy

01-18-2007 10:30:22

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Keith-OR, 01-17-2007 22:48:57

Been Prayin for you all.

I have family in Neosho that are living on a generator and he works for Empire Elecric and is working night and day to get you all back some power.

My dad is retired from KCP&L in Kansas City and they sent 80 Trucks and lots of extra men to help as well down there.

I was without power for 10 days when we had the ice storm here 3 yrs ago and I only live 15 miles east of Lees Summit.

If you have no wood heat, gas furnace and have a heat pump, you have probably realized that you cannot fire up one of those without a large generator..... ...SO here is something for you to try. I had a 4800 Watt Coleman in which we used to run the freezer to keep it frozen, run a light here and there, it will keep the hot water heater working and also run a clothes dryer which puts out nice heat for one room if you can stand to be couped up with them. You of course cannot run all of this at once and have to alternate but it can be done. How many folks lived in a one room house some years ago and set the milk outside to keep it cold.

Another thing you all may not know, if your coleman generator breaks or is broken, they send moblie repair centers to emergency outage areas. They had two here in the kansas city area during our ice storm and I took mine up there as a bearing went out and burned up the windings and left me high and dry. I called coleman, they told me they were at a home depot, i took it up there, it was a 10 y/o generator that i had borrowed, they replaced the entire windings, bearing, case etc and never charged me a penny.

Just thought I would let you all know about using a clothes dryer for heat, take the hose off it and blow it down the hall instead of out of the house. A small generator will run one.

Also dont forget to find out where coleman is repairing units there around springfield and joplin, i am sure they have mobile units around other areas as well.

blessings,

robert

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Keith-OR

01-18-2007 08:18:58

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Update on Gen. in reply to Keith-OR, 01-17-2007 22:48:57

Rich, does have a gen,BUT it is not working some dumb a$$ rewireded it before he got it,,,MICKEY Moused it. Same old story,"it ran the last time I used it". He said they are surviving the best they can....AND Genie is on list to fix after repairing roof,(as limb is sticking thur in front room)water pipes. And then getting his folks' water pipes and anything else that needs repaired so they can get back into thier home.

Unusual weather all over the country this year, like snow and ice in S. Calif, snow on the coast of Oregon, unheard of. 300,000 people without power in Portland,OR month or so ago.

My prayers go out to all that have been effected by this weather...

Keith & Shawn

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two mile

01-18-2007 07:47:26

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Keith-OR, 01-17-2007 22:48:57

Generators are great, but no more often than they run can sometimes be a reliability headache. We have an old 5K and a welder generator. Probably don't need both. If the power goes out, the first thing I head for is our 1500W inverter. I can always find a vehicle that will start. If we find that we are in it for the long haul, then it's time for the generators. Makes us all apprieciate what our ancestors put up with. We've got options. Prayers for Old and everyone in the ice have been said.

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the Unforgiven

01-18-2007 06:18:26

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Keith-OR, 01-17-2007 22:48:57

Spread your prayer around a little boys, there are a lot of people in a tough spot this winter, and Old has a generator. We went 18 days, without commercial power. Not much fun but I was ALMOST prepared.

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railhead

01-18-2007 18:41:28

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to the Unforgiven, 01-18-2007 06:18:26

I wasn't about to believe that Old didn't have a generator but, I know that just having that only makes having no power a little more tolerable. IT SUX to have no electricity. Makes you realize the things we take for granted. He and all others are in my good thoughts. I know it could be me with no power next storm. I went 5 days in '02 without and it was the 5hits.

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TomTX

01-18-2007 05:56:47

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Keith-OR, 01-17-2007 22:48:57

Sorry to hear about Old. This is exactly why I got a Miller Bobcat 225 welder, and wired my house with a transfer switch. Tom

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jubilee johnny

01-18-2007 05:20:04

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Keith-OR, 01-17-2007 22:48:57

I am really sorry to hear about "old". He always reaches out to others when they are down and out. I remember here in NC in 1993 when we had the "one hundred year blizzard" I determined to get a generator. I finally got a Lincoln 10kw with ac/dc welder and hooked it to the house with the proper switches in 2005. It only took me 12 years!

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Jimmy King

01-18-2007 05:16:49

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Keith-OR, 01-17-2007 22:48:57

Old is in the north edge of the ice, Springfield and around it looks like a twister has hit except there is no insulation in the trees. I have been off since friday night, came back on once friday night and again sat. morning for about 30 min each. I have a 15000 alt. my Uncle and I are shuttling it between our houses on about 12 hr shifts. Empire Electric has some back up but the REA substation is still dead.

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Walter Squires

01-18-2007 07:54:54

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Jimmy King, 01-18-2007 05:16:49

I live on the east edge of Sprinfgfield and Jimmy is right it looks like a tornado hit. I bought a 3500 watt generator about two months ago and got it all wired up, trimmed the trees about three weeks ago, talk about pure dumd luck.
I been on generator since 3:00 am Saturday morning, haven't shut it off except to check the oil and fill it up with gas.
I have two neighbors with big trees on their house with structural damage, power lines accross the street, looks like a war zone.

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RustyFarmall

01-18-2007 02:39:19

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Keith-OR, 01-17-2007 22:48:57

Kinda wondered if that wasn't what happened since he hasn't been on the forums for a couple of days now. It's just this strange weather, Old is far enough south that they don't usually get that kind of weather, not to that extent anyhow.

I think Rich is a bit frugal with his money, and probably feels the same as I do that those stand-by generators are just a bit overpriced, otherwise he would have one.

I will keep him and his family in my thoughts and prayers.

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massey333

01-18-2007 06:43:52

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-18-2007 02:39:19

Rusty,THIS is NOT a personal attack on Old or you or anybody else.You say he or others are frugal,more like short sighted.When a small Gen.can be bought for $1,000 or less that will run a Water Pump,Furnace and a few lights,It palls in Comparison to what Plumbing and etc.repairs can cost.I have been called the dumbest SOB for having all the units(3-PTOs and 1 self contained) that I own BUT let the power be out 5 Hrs.or so in bad weather and you become the best Person in the world to these people then when they come CRYING because you have Elec.And they don't.It is hard to feel sorry for this people when Two minutes after the power comes back on You that DUMB SOB again.Sorry for the rant but People worry about thiefs and to me this just the same because it is protecting my Property.YES I DO help these People out but it HURTS when later you hear the bad Mouthing you get for owning this Equipment.

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RustyFarmall

01-18-2007 07:35:38

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to massey333, 01-18-2007 06:43:52

Let me explain, $1,000 may not seem like vey much money to you, but to Old, me, and a whole bunch of others, $1,000 is money that we do not have, and therefore we are very frugal. If you have $1,000 just laying around, why don't you send it to Old, I'm sure someone will give you his mailing address, and I am sure that he will go right out and purchase a new generator.

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Joe in MN

01-18-2007 11:21:10

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-18-2007 07:35:38

I think that most folks use their money in ways that don't make much sense to others, Massey333 has a point, using your money wisely is some thing we should learn from the mistakes we make, I'm sure those who say they can't afford this or that, have things like Computers, so you have to make a choice, and those come with Consequences...

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RustyFarmall

01-18-2007 14:26:02

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Joe in MN, 01-18-2007 11:21:10

Never thought of it quite like that, and I'm sure I might agree with you, but this computer is also a business tool, and is a justifiable expense because it gets put to work everyday. A stand-by generator would be used very rarely, and can not be justified.

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Dan Hill

01-19-2007 17:12:40

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-18-2007 14:26:02

My welder ,hydraulic press,hay rake, baler,mower, dont get used every day but I consider them neccesary items.My generator doesnt get used often but its ready to go when needed.I have several fire extinguishers handy, hope I never need them.You have to change your thinking.

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massey333

01-18-2007 08:30:36

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-18-2007 07:35:38

Rusty,SORRY if you took it personaly,but it is a INVESTMENT to me same as a ROOF or sump pump,or whatever to protect your property from Disasters.You sacrifice other things to make due.I'am not saying this is you,but my self and others around us are tired of the people with their Big SUVs,Boats,RVs,Skiing trips,Cruises,Booze Partys come CRYING for help when their Power goes out when the rest of the time you are Nobody to them.I didn't mean to hit a raw nerve but it hits me wrong.Like others have said,A portable welder serves that need.

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dan hill

01-19-2007 05:35:27

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to massey333, 01-18-2007 08:30:36

We had an ice storm in 1998 that shut the power off for 8 days.A friend had a 2 cylinder Onan 5000 watt generator.He wanted some thing that was easier to store and move around.He set a price of 400.00.I gave him some cash and paid off the rest by sawing his fire wood,with eggs etc.Anyone who can afford a PC can afford a small generator.I used the generator to keep my freezer cold, run the oil furnace.Also kept the local post office going and several houses from freezing up.I had built a cart for the Onan because its heavy.3 of us loaded it in to my pickup.The generator has an electric fuel pump so it can draw fuel from a boat tank or a car,truck,or tractor tank.A smoker can spend 1825.00 per year on cigaretts.Any one who has 1 old tractor has at least 2 grand in it.I have had a welder handy for 50 years. I would have bought a gas powered welder/ac generator if I didnt have 2 ac welders.Some people were without power for over 30 days during the 98 ice storm.Only one FM radio did good coverage during the storm.The rest were off the air or went on with the some old format.Many people were out of food in 2 days.I have two wood fired stoves in the house,and wood in the shed.Many people who were able to get generators were trying to sell them once power came back on.The power when out again for two more days.I saw pickup trucks go by filled with new generators.I was taught to be ready for storms by my mom and dad.The roads were not plowed for 2 weeks in 1948 were I grew up.A good stock of food that wont freeze should be kept if you dont have a generator.A friend has a generator, 3 wind mills, a solar panel, a battery bank and a wood stove in his house.Ive heard of people who have electric can openers that go hungry when they have canned goods on hand.Every kid had a boy scout pocket knife with a can opener when I was growing up.I have a wood fired cook stove along with an electric stove in the kitchen.If the power goes off I drain the barn water line.I fill my wood box and feed the livestock in day light hours.If power is off for long I fire up the stove in the living room.If the roads are not plowed I have plenty of food put away.I dont run to a shelter,there isnt one out here anyway.My mother and dad would have a good laugh over people leaving their homes because the electric was down.I still have my mothers oil lamp on the shelf full of kerosene.I have a 5 gallon can of kerosene handy.I have several kerosene lanterns ready for use.These preparations dont cost that much money but you must have the common sense to get ready.

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doogdoog

01-18-2007 01:43:37

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Keith-OR, 01-17-2007 22:48:57

Aloha, I wish him luck too and remind him to be carefull of that camping heater (carbon monoxide).

Mahalo,
doogdoog

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davpal

01-17-2007 22:59:06

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to Keith-OR, 01-17-2007 22:48:57

Wonder why he never threw together a generator for them? Seems to be one of the most mechanically inclined guys on the board. I would bet he will have one running off one of the tractors after this deal. I wish him luck.

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Animal

01-18-2007 05:09:26

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Re: Old---Needs a few prayors in reply to davpal, 01-17-2007 22:59:06

As I stated yesterday the ice here in Missouri is pure he!! on us that are not used to getting much of it. My heart goes out to him and his family.....

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