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MN Bob

08-30-2006 09:48:27




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Well 12 years ago I built the wife her new house. Well those fancey looking 25 year shingles look like her hair after a perm. Sort of wavy and the edges are curled. Called the agent and he said I will get something, not sure how much. I want to go with the new steel roofing. They have it now that looks like shingles. Any one tried it? What to look for? How do they interlock and fasten down? We have to consider snow and ice daming up here. Thanks, Bob

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David Gray

08-31-2006 13:20:08




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to MN Bob, 08-30-2006 09:48:27  
How much and what type attic ventillation do you have in your house? Curling, drying shingles usually mean that there is too little ventillation. When the attic temp is the same as the outside temp, applied roofing will last it's advertised term.



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davpal

08-31-2006 00:07:19




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to MN Bob, 08-30-2006 09:48:27  
We built two exact same sized 30x40 pole barns. One in 1983 with a steel roof. One in 1993 with three in one shingled osb roof. The shingles on the one built in 1993 need to be replaced this year or next, the metal roof put on in 1983 still looks like new. We also have another 24x32 that was put up in 1972 that has a metal roof that still looks new, no leaks ever. I don't think there is any comparison at least on outbuildings. If I put up a new house it will have one of them new interlocking steel roofs. No doubt about it. I like the blue ones you see now. Later.

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Walter Squires

08-30-2006 13:20:49




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to MN Bob, 08-30-2006 09:48:27  
5 year ago I built a new house and was dead set on putting on a slip lock metal standing seam roof, about 6 times more expensive than a 30 year compisition roof.
My cousin is an insurance agent and he talked me out of it because he said if you get a hail storm on it the insurance will only pay a small amount because it is still water tight, and I guess thats true because I see a lot with hail damage that haven't been replaced. My luck would be get just enough money to make me mad but not enough to replace it.

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jubilee johnny

08-30-2006 12:11:26




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to MN Bob, 08-30-2006 09:48:27  
This is one of those questions you will probably get people on both sides of the fence and still have to make up your mind. We live in North Carolina. There are more and more metal roofs in our area as time goes on. We have recenly put one on our house and are pleased with it. In my research they have a good track record.



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neblinc

08-30-2006 11:19:54




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to MN Bob, 08-30-2006 09:48:27  
We had laminate shingles installed on our roof after hail damage. We paid the extra difference and they are much thicker than your normal shingles.

Randy



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Nebraska Cowman

08-30-2006 10:28:46




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to MN Bob, 08-30-2006 09:48:27  
I think lifetime steel is sure the way to go. I like the look of a standing seam roof myself but there are lots of options.



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MN Bob

08-30-2006 13:38:50




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 08-30-2006 10:28:46  
Hey there NE. Cowman; How you doing? I have missed a couple days and not seen a report. (actually not sure what surgery you had but thats not important, just you are OK). I went to the Standing Seam web site and even they have a couple styles that you dont see a seam on, just looks like shingles.Do you have one on your home or know of one? May not go this way as the Rep. said they would probably give me a settlement plus a $25. rebate if I went with their product again. Might make the difference. Bob

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bcPA

08-30-2006 10:15:49




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to MN Bob, 08-30-2006 09:48:27  
I would like to know why the problems developed that you had. Was it only on the south side of the howse. Too much moisture or a lack of ventelation problem? How is the condition of the roof decking under the shingles? What does the underside of the roof decking look like? Is it mildewed or moldy or damp? I would want These questions answered along with some I havent thought of yet if it were my roof. I read that the metal roofs can have a moisture problem on their underside also if everything is not done just right.

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MN Bob

08-30-2006 13:22:42




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to bcPA, 08-30-2006 10:15:49  
bcPA; Well, I noticed it starting a couple years ago but since it was only in the valleys and we had a severe winter with ice buildup after a couple thaws I blamed that. This year all the shingles show some problem and the valleys on North and South are worse. I called the local building material supplier I got them from and they told me there was a 2 year period (installation) that was showing problems and had the mfg rep come to my house. Whats below? I wont know that untill I get them up. The under side in the attic shows no problems. Good questions and I will watch as I replace this material. I am looking at a product called Ice and Water Shield as an underlayment. Bob

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Dachshund

08-30-2006 11:16:24




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to bcPA, 08-30-2006 10:15:49  
Just my opinion but, I'd NEVER put a metal roof on a structure that is meant for habitation (ie - house). As a former roofing and window inspector, I have NEVER found a metal roof that didn't have unseen (an unknown about) damage underneath. This goes the same for metal wrapped windows and doors. Even if the metal was "installed correctly". Can a composite roof have unseen damage? Sure, but (in my experience) on average, it is a LOT less. Metal does not breathe like composite does. Metal is also not maintenance free. It will actually call for MORE upkeep (in most cases). A lot of folks are happy with thier metal roof, but in my experience, and seeing what I've seen, I sure wouldn't want one on anything but an out building. Just my 2 cents!

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massey333

08-30-2006 14:42:41




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to Dachshund, 08-30-2006 11:16:24  
Like you said everyone has their opinon,but a good Double Crimp Standing Seam Roof will last 50 to 100 years without much Maint.A Composition roof will maybe get 10 to 15 years at the most.(The only Problem today MIGHT be todays Metals)There is no cauking or screws to keep replacing on Standing Seam except at chimneys and vents.(Which has to be done on Composition too)



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Dachshund

08-30-2006 18:22:51




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to massey333, 08-30-2006 14:42:41  
Except that even crimped standing seem, there are problems where it is crimped. Wind also can effect the metal even if there are no screws. A GOOD composite roof will last 25-30 years. It's his decision, but I cannot recommend a metal roof of any kind to anyone! Your experience might be different.



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MN Bob

08-30-2006 13:29:34




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to Dachshund, 08-30-2006 11:16:24  
Dachshund; No argument as you have experience behind your opinon. I would like to know what would be the MORE upkeep to look for? and have you stayed current with the newer products on the market for residential houses? Would really like you opinon before I commit. Thanks, Bob



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Dachshund

08-30-2006 13:43:32




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to MN Bob, 08-30-2006 13:29:34  
I have remained current until 2 years ago. Most people don't realize that the metal does need maintained over time - caulking, seals , and gaskets can wear out, wind hail and rain take thier toll (in some ways wind and hail can cause worse damage to a metal roof). Remember: a PIN HOLE will let in a lot of water. My wife's dad used to preah to me how good a metal roof is, yet he is up there every year caulking and replacing screws. Most people never even LOOK at thier metal roof, because they assume that there is no maintenence involved. They never see the damage, either. I'm sure other's will have differing opinions, but I'd go with composite for a home. It's just my 2 cents.

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IH2444

08-30-2006 11:03:44




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to bcPA, 08-30-2006 10:15:49  
You got that right bcPA. If the best roof is installed improperly it will not do well.



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MN Bob

08-30-2006 20:06:46




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to IH2444, 08-30-2006 11:03:44  
My thanks to all for the replies. Like always, still my decision. Have to look at the final settlement and costs. May just give a buyer a roofing allowance, sell and build a new one. I am on 5.2 acres here, a 1.2 acre lot beside me is empty and for sale, $99,000.00. Taxes are killing me anyway, been trying to get the wife to move to the farm for years. This may do it. Bob



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Ken Macfarlane

08-31-2006 04:48:48




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to MN Bob, 08-30-2006 20:06:46  
We just bought a metal roof and I'm sort of convinced many steel roof problems are from installing directly on sheathing such that air can't circulate.

We are being extra careful to tape and caulk both vapour barriers below the steel so our houses moisture doesn't get up there. Hopefully it lasts 60 years so I never have change it.

I fully expect to maintain seals and such. My parents have a brand new shingle roof (2 yo) and we have to retar all the metal stove flashings every year after the summer.

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