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Robhkent

08-23-2006 18:30:23




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I just bought a 2001 Grand Caravan today. (about to have my third girl child, everyone pray for me)(6 proms 3 weddings etc...)

Anyway trouble with the van...
I got under it to change the oil, and I cannot get the oil plug out. The wrench slipped off, I put real Vise Grips on it, very tight, and it slips off the plug. Is that oil pan plastic? Anyone have an idea how I can get this plug out so i can change the oil and replace it?

Rob

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Tracy G

08-24-2006 10:56:55




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 Re: OT Caravan Oli plug in reply to Robhkent, 08-23-2006 18:30:23  
Take it to a muffler shop that also changes oil, they will have a welder, weld a sizeable nut on to the rounded plug, should come out. If welder starts van on fire tell mechanic to go to dinner then will not have to worry about changing oil anymore. Only do new oil pan if female threads are stripped due to $$ labor to install new pan. Speaking of females I have only 1 son he will be for sale when he turns 18?

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Mike (WA)

08-24-2006 08:21:38




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 Re: OT Caravan Oli plug in reply to Robhkent, 08-23-2006 18:30:23  
Can't help much on the oil pan, but I did grow up with 3 sisters and only one bathroom in the house. When I was in my teens, Mom mentioned that our old outhouse was kind of an eyesore, and could Dad and I take it down next weekend? Dad and I just looked at each other, and burst out laughing simultaneously. Dad asked whether she or the girls had ever wondered why they had never experienced any "I've got to get in there RIGHT NOW" demands for the bathroom. The old outhouse was still standing when I moved away from home.

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RAB

08-23-2006 22:29:57




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 Re: OT Caravan Oli plug in reply to Robhkent, 08-23-2006 18:30:23  
Surely your vehicle service agents no longer remove drain plugs for oil changes! Or at least the bigger ones.
Surely most of them just suck out the engine oil through the dipstick hole or other suitable point?
That is what I do, at least on my car engines.
Regards, RAB



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RustyFarmall

08-24-2006 14:50:51




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 Re: OT Caravan Oli plug in reply to RAB, 08-23-2006 22:29:57  
That is exactly why I always change my oil. I remove the drain plug and wait until the last drop has dripped before I put the plug back in. Sucking the dirty oil out the top will not get rid of the crud that has settled to the bottom of the pan.



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JOHN HARMON

08-23-2006 20:52:59




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 Re: OT Caravan Oli plug in reply to Robhkent, 08-23-2006 18:30:23  
Can't help with the plug removal as there are many ways to do that but: when and if you get it out weld an old 1/2"drive Socket to it and the next time use your Rachet for what should be an easy out for that drain plug.I did that to the Crankcase plug on my Cherokee and also the Tranny plug on my Ford Truck.Works good.John



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bradk

08-23-2006 20:08:31




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 Re: OT Caravan Oli plug in reply to Robhkent, 08-23-2006 18:30:23  
Use an air hammer with chisel bit to walk it around.....works every time.~brad



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Mr. Bennett

08-23-2006 18:59:00




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 YIKES!!! in reply to Robhkent, 08-23-2006 18:30:23  
My 1997 Grand C. has pleasantly surprised me with its longevity. 175k; one new transmission.

My oil pan and plug are metal; straightforward removal.

Not so with my four!!! daughters. Paying for the weddings is far, far easier than preserving anything like domestic tranquility. Get yourself a nice office and library; preferably out in the barn.



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Leland

08-23-2006 18:57:56




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 Re: OT Caravan Oli plug in reply to Robhkent, 08-23-2006 18:30:23  
Probley cross threaded ours got that way may have to replace pan I got one at junk yard cheap .



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bo

08-23-2006 18:39:29




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 Re: OT Caravan Oli plug in reply to Robhkent, 08-23-2006 18:30:23  
Pan is metal...at least on my 99...all else fails, get a boat oil pump...tube goes into the dipstick hole and a small pump...about $13 or so..heat it up and suck it out and leave the plug in. You'll get most of it.



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Robhkent

08-23-2006 19:29:57




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 Re: OT Caravan Oli plug in reply to bo, 08-23-2006 18:39:29  
Thanks for the ideas guys, I think the new oil pan is probably the ay I wil go.

Rob



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Beck

08-24-2006 10:02:04




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 Re: OT Caravan Oli plug in reply to Robhkent, 08-23-2006 19:29:57  
If the threads are still good in the oil pan, don't scrap the oil pan, just get the old plug out.

There is a socket set you can buy(about $20), made by Irwin. These sockets are designed to take off any bolt with a rounded off head. Matco and Snap-On also carry them (for alot more money of course). They work really slick, I have put them on really rounded off heads and they will grip so good that you could actually break the bolt before they will let go.

In our area, they are available at Northern Tool and Menards (equivalet to Lowe's in other areas).

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dhermesc

08-24-2006 06:18:01




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 Re: OT Caravan Oli plug in reply to Robhkent, 08-23-2006 19:29:57  
If you can get the oil plug out (better vise grip chisel et..) you might be OK even if it is cross threaded. When I changed the oil on my 2004 Taurus for the first time I found the last guy had cross threaded the plug. But I was pleasently surprised to find the threads in the pan were fine, apparently Ford got smart and started making the plugs from softer metal then the pan threads. The replacement plug turned in with no problems. I don't think Dodge is as smart as Ford but you never know.

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