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markloff

06-09-2006 10:44:17




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Hello,

I love tractors of all colors. That being said one thing I have noticed about all of them is they all seem to have one or two things on them that make you say what the %$@^! 95% of the components on old classic tractors are bullet proof and overbuilt and 5% of the components seem like an afterthought and are completely hokey.

My 560 Farmall that you bump the throttle with your knuckles whilt keeping them on the steering wheel. Almost everyone I've seem has been modified somehow.

My SC case that you had to pull the throttle almost wide open to get into one of the gears. Don't remember which one, doesn't matter.

My Cockshutt 30 that you have to nearly get off the tractor to shift the high/low shifter lever.

My Case 401 that you can't reach the brake lock on unless you are double jointed and have trained in the circus.

And most recently the throttle on my WD-9. Completely akward and out of position. It would have been so simple to do it differently. I'll be modifying it real soon.

Any other ones out there? Leave the color wars out please.

Mid MN Mark

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Brad Wright of MO

06-16-2006 14:49:35




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to markloff, 06-09-2006 10:44:17  
Yeah im not a real tall gut and on the Allis Chalmers D-19 I have trouble pushing the clutch and the brake at the same time. The brakes on mine go down a ways and i guess they need adjusted but still it makes me come off the seat.



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Don-Wi

06-10-2006 06:57:18




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to markloff, 06-09-2006 10:44:17  
I love my 1600, but the brake lock is very easy to release when getting off the tractor. Sometimes i don't even bump the lever of the peddel and it'll release itself... not good if I lived on hilly ground!

Donovan from Wisconsin



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Jerry Cent. Mi.

06-09-2006 15:58:02




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to markloff, 06-09-2006 10:44:17  
I welded an extention on the overdrive lever on my 30 Cockshutt.



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Tom in Central Pa.

06-09-2006 14:19:33




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to markloff, 06-09-2006 10:44:17  
The early Silver Kings had a brake control for each side. A heavy round stock was bent into the shape of an L , you pulled the top for a brake handle and/or pushed on the bottom for a brake pedal. However, if your left foot was on the clutch, braking could be a problem. Most owners would weld a long piece of pipe onto the bottom of the left side,across the center of the tractor, almost touching the right side, then the left brake could be easily depressed with the right foot.

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RustyFarmall

06-09-2006 12:37:54




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to markloff, 06-09-2006 10:44:17  
How about the roll-gard cab that John Deere put on the 4020s? Those hollow beams would telegraph all of the noise right up to the operators ears.



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mjbrown

06-09-2006 11:57:46




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to markloff, 06-09-2006 10:44:17  
The grandaddy of them all has to be the hand clutch on the Deere two cylinder tractors (Waterloo). Improved with a lanyard on the trip plows to automaticaly yank it out when a plow tripped and break your knee cap. I own green tractors for the record.



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Lloyd Llama

06-10-2006 15:36:36




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to mjbrown, 06-09-2006 11:57:46  
Yeah, and by the time the plow caught on something, the spring on the plow tongue compressed, the chain tightened up and popped the clutch, it was too late, the plowshare was already broke! (along with operator's kneecap!)

Another nasty on the JD B was the choke pull rod, which ended somewhere under the instrument panel. You needed to stand on the platform on one foot, use the other on the starter pedal, and practically double over the wheel to reach the choke. One we have now was modified with longer rod by previous owner. Reaches out to about headlight mounting rod - so easy to reach - Why didn't Deere think of that?

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buickanddeere

06-09-2006 13:09:21




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to mjbrown, 06-09-2006 11:57:46  
I never seen or felt the JD hand clutch was a problem. Used them since age three. Never hit the left brake yet when trying to stop the tractor.



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Tom in Central Pa.

06-09-2006 14:06:04




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to buickanddeere, 06-09-2006 13:09:21  
A local farmer"s hired man was driving the JD B pulling a forage wagon into the blower. He hit the left clutch oops that was the brake, and slapped the side of the silo. The JD B was broken in half! The B was later rebuilt.



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markloff

06-09-2006 12:19:58




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to mjbrown, 06-09-2006 11:57:46  
Hello,

I saw one of these set up on a JD B a few years ago. I assumed it was homemade. I also assumed the guy who made it had no use for his entire right leg. I now assume that anyone who purchased one should have their head examined.

Mark



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Bob

06-09-2006 12:09:14




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to mjbrown, 06-09-2006 11:57:46  
Deere wasn't alone with the hand clutch.



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markloff

06-09-2006 12:35:02




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to Bob, 06-09-2006 12:09:14  
Bob,

Did you read the post or see the words "hand clutch"
We're talking about a cable system hooked to the plow that disengages the hand clutch a 7.3 million miles and hour when the plow hitch trips. Unless your sitting sideways on the seat you may be picking up knee components out of the dead furrow.

Mid Mn Mark



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Bob

06-09-2006 12:52:02




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to markloff, 06-09-2006 12:35:02  
markloff,

Other makes had the hand clutch, and some folks tied the plow rope to the clutch handle, too.

For example, my Dad had a MM GVI, and they plowed with an old Deere plow, and had the rope tied to the clutch lever on the MM.



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Georgeharry

06-12-2006 20:14:16




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to Bob, 06-09-2006 12:52:02  
What about a wd45 Allis ,You snatch the hand clutch back and it moves your kneecap back about 2 inches,then you fall off the back of the step down (you got on and off at the back) and across the haybaler pto and tongue while you are running to find a place to relieve your stomach pains .Oh yes that was a time .



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Jay in MN

06-09-2006 19:22:55




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to Bob, 06-09-2006 12:52:02  
Not the hand clutch itself. John Deere had plows with a rope to tie to the clutch. When the plow triped the operator had a soar knee for a few days. Nothing to do with the "hand clutch" on JD's



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Coloken

06-09-2006 11:37:36




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to markloff, 06-09-2006 10:44:17  
Don't forget the M&M , was it the GVI or the 706 ??, that put the hydraulic resovor under the seat. With a cab, that was fun on a hot day.



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RustyFarmall

06-09-2006 11:06:11




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 Re: idiosyncrasys in reply to markloff, 06-09-2006 10:44:17  
Just about the first time your foot slips off the drawbar on an H Farmall, and you scrape your shins all the way down, you wonder how many others have done the same thing, and why didn't IH put a step on there?



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