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NEW 50 Year Old Tractors

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GlennFitzGerald

02-25-2006 18:44:35




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Anyone know of a 50 year old(or so) tractor someone bought new strictly for the purpose of storing it, and never used it? I know some folks who bought new cars for this purpose. Almost zero miles on them. I suspect there aren't many as farmers have always been a practical sort. Glenn




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Jonfarmer

02-26-2006 13:47:43




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to GlennFitzGerald, 02-25-2006 18:44:35  
Just thought of another one. Local Agco dealer sold White farm equipment for many years, he's got a White American 80 2wd with a cab on it that he is storing just for collecting, said it was the very last American 80hp tractor and thats why he kept it, has 3" of dust on it, but it has never had any fuel in it. He also got a Oliver high crop in not too long ago that was 50-60hp (1265 I think was the model number) that had been used indoors to run some kind of machinery in a factory, Tires had pretty much never been rolled but the engine and pto had high hours on it.

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benny2

02-26-2006 12:56:56




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 Pic:35 yr old NEW and FOR SALE: NEW 50 Yr Old Trac in reply to GlennFitzGerald, 02-25-2006 18:44:35  
third party image

This is New and unused 35 years old still in crate.
The story behind it is long.

This photo is the same machine but not of the actual machine as it is still crated from factory.

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Scott KY

02-26-2006 09:46:53




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to GlennFitzGerald, 02-25-2006 18:44:35  
About a year ago I bought an SC Case with eagle hitch and foot clutch with a mounted danuser post hole digger on it. It had been purchased new by the father in law of the man I bought it from. It was used very little. The drawbar showed no wear. Mounting the digger was a major job so I assume it stayed on most of the time. It still has original paint and tires. It is a great tractor.



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Jon Holt

02-26-2006 09:31:21




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to GlennFitzGerald, 02-25-2006 18:44:35  
I can remember my dad telling me of a hardware store that went out of business in the 80's and had been around since the early 1900's. When they were cleaning it out, they found a brand new wagon up in the attic.



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TomTX

02-26-2006 21:10:39




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to Jon Holt, 02-26-2006 09:31:21  
Jon, would that store have been in Weatherford Texas, by chance??
Tom



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pcy1066

02-26-2006 08:55:09




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to GlennFitzGerald, 02-25-2006 18:44:35  
there is a 4430 jd setting in a barn just outside georgetown ohio that has less than 30 hours on it it belongs to wade paeltz



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JohnDeereGreen

02-26-2006 10:23:24




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to pcy1066, 02-26-2006 08:55:09  
pcy1066,
You wouldn't happen to know his phone number or any other way of getting a hold of him would be, do you? We have a farm about 20 minutes from Georgetown, and are kind of thinking about a 4430. Thanks if you can,
JohnDeereGreen



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37 chief

02-26-2006 08:25:13




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to GlennFitzGerald, 02-25-2006 18:44:35  
Not a tractor, but there is a new, never used grain treshing machine in Vista Calif. I would guess late 40's or early 50's. There is a large antique farm equipment museum located there. It still has the packing from the factory. Stan



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matthies

02-26-2006 08:20:02




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to GlennFitzGerald, 02-25-2006 18:44:35  
There is an Oliver 70 on steel near here that never sold. Dealer bought it late enough with steel, when I guess everybody wanted rubber. And never sold, but ran it a couple years ago at a plowing bee. Even had an old timer that bought one new back then, run this one for awhile in the field.



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Chris(WA)

02-26-2006 04:18:26




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to GlennFitzGerald, 02-25-2006 18:44:35  
There is a Fordson F sitting in the car museum in the old Montana State Prison Museum at Deer Lodge,MT that had never been used. I do not remember the story on the sign as to why it had sat but it was a beauty!



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Hugh MacKay

02-26-2006 07:09:22




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to Chris(WA), 02-26-2006 04:18:26  
Chris: Maybe thay had the same reason as my dad did with the Fordson. Was easier to do the work with the horses than tow start the Fordson. He claimed with the unreliability of the Fordson, it cut the team's workload by 30%, just leaving the Fordson parked.



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Hugh MacKay

02-26-2006 03:22:12




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to GlennFitzGerald, 02-25-2006 18:44:35  
Glenn: There is a story, floats around Eastern Ontario, about a Farmall MD or Super MD. Dealer brought it in as a new tractor. His customers at that time were not yet ready for a tractor as large as the MD. It sat on his lot something like 3 to 5 years, unsold. He loaned it one day to a community group, doing some improvment to public grounds. Seems they ran it all day without switching it to diesel, and that somehow caused some damage. The dealer then moved it to his home and stored it in a shed where it stayed until his death, sometime in the late 80s. I'm not sure what happened after that, but expect some collector has it. Perhaps guys in that area can enlighten us.

I also had a dealer ask me in 1976, if I had any idea where a certain Farmall Super M was. It went missing while out on demonstrations in 1953. He fired the salesman responcible for the tractor at the time, for other reasons. Not too concerned about the Super M at the time, he figured one of his regular customers would be in some time within a year, wanting to pay for the tractor or at least wondering if he was ever coming for it. That never happened and after a time all dealers in the area were alerted to ask for serial numbers when selling parts for a Super M. In 22 years that had turned up nothing. He was baffled how a Super M could go all those years and never require parts. Maybe it has never needed any parts.

I have a Farmall 140, I suspect almost fits your catergory. My son found it in a heated warehouse and bought it. It had been there a good many years. I doubt if this tractor has seen 500 hours of work since new in 1963. Just my opinion, having owned new tractors in my day, and judging wear on items like steering, fast hitch, seat, levers and controls. Of course these little 140 don't have hour meters, thus one can't be certain. I'm not sure being parked all those years actually preserves tractors very well. It took close to $1,500. in parts to get this one going and running well, and not sure we're out of the woods yet. The PTO will still not engage, I had hoped that would come using the tractor and once again getting lub up around the PTO shifter. They do need exercise at least monthly.

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Jonfarmer

02-25-2006 20:15:15




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to GlennFitzGerald, 02-25-2006 18:44:35  
It can and does happen, they are rare, but they are out there. Farmer friend bought a IH 1486 that a rich guy had bought brand new with the intention of planting corn for hire with it. It had always been shedded, and had extremely low hours on it, totally like new in every way, because he ended up not using it.



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JMS/MN

02-25-2006 20:04:17




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to GlennFitzGerald, 02-25-2006 18:44:35  
I've heard of a threshing machine, circa 1948 or so, bought by a dealer in New Prague, MN, currently at the LeSeuer Threshing grounds, with ZERO hours on it. (my apologies to the fine folks at LeSeuer- I usually misspell your name!).



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Mike Fenner

02-25-2006 19:14:56




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to GlennFitzGerald, 02-25-2006 18:44:35  
Probably 10 years ago I was at a show in Middleville, MI and happened across JD unstyled A on steel. Reason it caught my eye is because the cleats were nearly perfect, so naturally I thought the owner had aquired a new set somehow, or else did a spiffy job of reman. As I circled the tractor a huge sign explained the near perfect condition of the tractor. Apparently, a farmer took delivery in the fall of, I believe, 1936 with the intention of using it the following spring to drill some grain or plant corn, or something like that. Anyway, the tractor was run off the line onto a truck, into the dealership, back on a truck to the farmer, off that truck and into his barn, where it awaited the spring planting. Farmer got sick in the winter and died, never having worked the tractor. His widow did not continue farming and left the tractor in the barn until her death in 1989 or so, at which point the tractor was sold at auction and brought a pretty penny. Tractor was restored and made the show circuit rounds for a few years and eventually was sold back to John Deere. JD refit the tractor and sold it to a collector for as I recall $96,000. Anyway, the tractor remains in perfect working order last time I saw it in about '99, still having less than 2 original hours on it. Strange things happen in this world, some of these facts may not be exactly accurate but the main points are true. Unlike the $200 Corvette sitting in the Mother of a dead soldier's garage story. I know this one is true cause I saw it and touched it. Check around SW Michigan and ask about the Middleville show, all the gear heads in that area know the story.
Mike

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Trkr

02-25-2006 18:47:47




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to GlennFitzGerald, 02-25-2006 18:44:35  
Wengers, a equipment dealer in Myerstown, Pa. used to have a Ferguson 30 sitting in their showroom for a long time and it had like 3 hrs. on the meter.Dont know if its still there.



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Trkr

02-26-2006 08:08:18




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to Trkr, 02-25-2006 18:47:47  
Not a tractor,but I have an Farmall Electrall generator on wheels that I bought at a local estate sale several years ago that is new and was never used.The pto shaft was still unassembled and wired to it.The grandson told me it was bought new in the 50s in case of an emergencey and put in the back of the barn and never used.



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VAJerry

02-26-2006 07:35:19




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 Re: NEW 50 Year Old Tractors in reply to Trkr, 02-25-2006 18:47:47  
Yup still there last month



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