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bigdiesel

12-28-2005 09:52:05

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I'm buying a new 2006 one ton dually and drove both trucks, read all the lititure on both til i'm blue in the face. I like the power of the 6.6 duramax, it is more than the 6.0 powerstroke. I also like the 6 sp Allison tranny, it shifts smoother than the Ford. I would like to hear imputs on these two trucks, good and bad. Thanks and Happy New Year.

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Eldon (WA)

12-29-2005 19:33:14

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

I thought $28 was kinda high for the air filter on my 04.5 Cummins.....NAPA guy told me air, oil and fuel filter for new Fords was $200! Something to think about.

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Mike S 806/H

12-29-2005 13:57:55

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

I would buy a Dodge! But if you have to choose between a Ford or the Chevy I would say get the Chevy,

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Farmered

12-29-2005 06:08:33

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

After a long line of Fords I quit them, mostly because of the leftist Ford Foundation. My 96
Dodge-Cummins-Allison has 206,000 miles on it and I wouldn't hasitate to jump in and drive cross country. My neighbor has this mysterious loyalty to the chevy. He says he would rather push a chevy than drive any other make. The dealer employs one person just to do his warrantee paperwork. I guess he just likes the look of his pretty new PU hanging on a tow hook and it saves wear and tear on the drive train. Ed

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JDknut

12-29-2005 03:42:34

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

They're both throw-away consumer "diesels". Good numbers for HP and torque, like any high performance car engine, but designed primarily for light duty applications (just look at the emissions sticker). That said, the Allison trans for the Chevy is the best out there. My ideal truck would be the Chevy with the allison and a Cummins. I'd like to see Chevy strike a deal with Cummins to that end.

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Dean Barker

12-28-2005 21:11:32

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

I've had my '05 Duramax/Allison 3500 now for over a year and really like it. Haven't had to take it back to the dealer even once. We pull a 30 foot gooseneck and haul all our grain to town with it pulling two 300 bushel gravity wagons. I call it my second Corvette with an 8 foot box; lots of power and above all very comfortable.

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K Smith

12-28-2005 18:33:05

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

I have a 1993 f-250 7.3 with 227,000 miles on it and it is still running strong. Daily driver and feed cows with it every day.Don't know much about the newer fords but this one has been great.

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showcrop

12-28-2005 18:31:01

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

I put 190,000 mi. on my first Diesel light truck after owning 9 medium duty diesels. The 2001 E-350 never gave me any trouble, and many miles were towing a trailer with two 4500 lb. tractors on it. when I got it appraised before selling they put a value of 10,000 on it less 3,000 for high mileage, then 3,000 back on for the diesel. Must be the diesel gives it higher resale. I replaced It with an F- 350 with the 6.0 I get 21 MPG (no trailer) It pulls A good grade in OD,is quiet and accelerates like a gas powered. And babes comment about how pretty it is. What more could I ask for?

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thejdman01

12-28-2005 18:06:46

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

One thing to consider (though i havent priced a duramax injector) but the fords injectors are very very very expensive. Also their whole injection system is very very high priced and very problematic. Their systme is much like a cat heui system and is expensive and complicated. Stepper pumps are very problematic and expensive. Also some of the power strokes would after an oil change (early ones(dont know about later ones) were problem matic to bleed sometimes after some agge. also, they can be a real problem and pain in the but as one o ring can make the whole system fail

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Everett Mi

12-28-2005 20:58:26

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to thejdman01, 12-28-2005 18:06:46

A duramax injector job runs 4500.00. Needed every 100,000 miles. that is why the extened warranty. Never had a problem starting my powerstroke after oil change or fuel filter change. Try changing a fuel filter on a duramax, what a sorry set up!!! As for 0 rings. If one fails on any system, be it hyd, fuel or oil it becomes a problem. I don`t know what you are trying to say. We have all of the diesels in our fleet of 60 pickups and stake trucks. Less trouble with Cummins!!!

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Gene or Georgia Ann Davis

12-28-2005 17:16:38

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

An old saying goes like this; "some swear by them, and some swear at them"!!

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Rich Iowa

12-28-2005 16:56:50

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

I guess I"ll throw a couple words in here. I have a "96 Ford F250 w/ the good ole 7.3, I"m satisfied with the performance of this truck. The new 6.0 from Navistar don"t seem to be as well built as the 7.3L. We have a Duramax at work in a Chevy 4500, seems like a decent engine, but I"ve never been a Chevy fan. I think the Cummins is the way to go. Not only do they have tons of power, but they only have 6 cylinder (less to maintain), plus I"ve allways felt inline 6s run smoother. I"ve heard lots of stories about their autos giving out, but I bet if any other manufacturer put a Cummins in their trucks, they"d have tranny problems too. Speaking of trannys, do you have to have an auto? I think any of these trucks would be better with a manual trans, again, from a reliability stand point. My next truck will be a Dodge Cummins with the 5 or 6 speed manual trans. An allmost bulletproof combo there. I"m sure I didn"t help ya either, just another fools thoughts.

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Everett Mi

12-28-2005 16:25:08

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

Drive a Ford 7.3---look after a fleet of 8 duramax Chevys. All but two (lower mileage) have had their share of problems. Injectors, fuel pumps, pressure regulators, heads and transmission. Most have been taken care of on warranty, as GM went to 200 thousand miles on injectors. Lots of power!!!. Better than the sorry 6.5 GM stuck us with. If buying a new truck now it would be a Dodge with the Cummins. We have 4 in the fleet. Less trouble.

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RodInNS

12-28-2005 15:16:05

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

Do I have to choose? Personally, I wouldn't have either one. If I was buying a diesel pickup truck, I would buy it based on the engine. Currently, the Dodge with the ISB Cummins is the only one on the market worth having, and it's been prooven by millions of miles of relieable service in those trucks, and tens of millions of hours service in medium industrial applications since 1986. As far as I'm concerned, both GM's and Ford's PowerStroke (Navistar engine) have a very spotty record. I know guys that swear by that old 7.3 powerstroke, but I know a lot more that swear at it. The same can be said for GM's old 6.2, the 6.5, and now the Duramax. I would also suspect that regardless of what power and torque specs you're shown for any of those 3 engines, the Cummins will out pull the other 2, by a lot, even if the Duramax puts better numbers on paper. The ISB will put the numbers on the tarmac. Just keep repeating to yourself "six in a row is the only way to go" until you buy a Dodge. Then you'll know the answer. Personally, if I couldn't stand to buy a dodge, I'd buy a gas in one of the other two, or go to a medium duty truck to get the engine I wanted. FWIW,

Rod

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Hurst

12-28-2005 16:53:01

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to RodInNS, 12-28-2005 15:16:05

The Cummins doesn't perform as well as the 6.0 Ford in acceleration and also on the paper. Also, the cummins in the new dodges are made mainly as an on-road engine, not an industrial engine like the old 12 valve, which were a great engine, much better than the 24 valve. The new '05 powerstrokes are much improved over the 04 powerstrokes. The 03 powerstrokes were actually better than the 04 because they used a different style injection. 6 in a row is not always going to be better. A lot will say they are cheaper to overhaul because they have 2 less holes, but they have a longer crankshaft that will cost more to machine and repair when overhauled. The chevy duramax diesels are not the best engine in the truck world right now. I have heard reports of problems with the aluminum heads on those diesels. Chevy is the only company who uses aluminum on their diesel motor. Honestly, that would scare me off, but that is just my opinion. I would go with the truck that will fit your needs the best. Most likely you are not going to go wrong with either. Just don't put a chip on either one. Also, if you can wait a year, Ford may have out the 6.4??? I haven't seen anything official, but who knows? Just don't put a chip in any of those trucks for power. People wonder why they don't last and they chip them and use cheap parts for service. Ford is picky on oil because of the injection system, and that is where a lot of problems come from because people don't use approved oil. Good luck

Hurst

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RodInNS

12-29-2005 16:17:34

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to Hurst, 12-28-2005 16:53:01

In my mind, when it comes to truck engines, 6 in a row will win every time. The 8 with the short stroke might be nice pulling off the line, with a flat torque curve, and steep power curve, but put 14t behind that truck, and put it against a good hill, and you will quickly wish you had the big 6 with the long stroke. A buddy of mine has an '04 Dodge 2500 heavy duty with the high output engine and big 6 speed. The transmission would look more at home in a semi than under that truck, and the engine, at 325 hp is quite cabable of handling a tri-axle gooseneck loaded with 14 tonne at highway speed. It can also go shoot the drag, and blow the doors of all the Honda Civic's with the rattle can mufflers. Done that a couple months ago too. The boys wanted to drag, so when the light turned green, the Dodge left the line, left the Civic behind, and left rubber through 3 gears. We near pi$$ed ourselves laughing that night.
So, for my money, I'd buy a Dodge if I wanted a diesel pickup. I think the others are a pig in a bag, at best.

Rod

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Jim.UT

12-28-2005 13:54:19

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

I don't have a diesel and never have, but I shopped for one for a year before settling on a used dually gasser.

In my search, here's what I think I learned:

The Ford 7.3 p/s was an awsome engine. The change to the 6.0 was a big mistake. Maybe the problems are ironed out now, but who knows?

I talked to several people, both in person and on the 'net, who reported problems with Ford automatic transmissions.

I used to have a '98 Dodge gas engine with automatic and had repeat problems with the tranny.

I started to focus my attention on finding a used Chevy or GMC with Allison transmission just because of the Allison reputation and my own frustration with the Dodge tranny troubles.

Then one day I stumbled on to a '98 Chevy 454 with only 23,000 original miles. So I bought it and I'm happy. This was last May before gas prices went crazy. Since then, diesel has settled at a price about 40-60 cents higher than gasoline, so I'm still happy.

If I were buying new, based on what I learned while shopping, I would go with the GM product. General Motor's financial problems are a concern, however, and there's not telling where that will end up. GM might become a division of Toyota or something. I know my daughter's new Pontiac Vibe is just a Toyota Matrix with different sheetmetal. It even had a Toyota oil filter on it.

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Bus Driver

12-28-2005 13:00:34

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

I have never owned a Diesel pickup. Just some comments to provoke thought. In my area, there is not a Daimler/Chrysler dealer with a dime's worth of integrity. I could choose from about 6 of them within reasonable distance. In addition to the credibility problem, their service departments are not especially capable. I think the Cummins is a great engine. Looks to me as if the Duramax would be my choice.

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Larry NE IL

12-29-2005 17:01:57

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to Bus Driver, 12-28-2005 13:00:34

I couldn't agree more. Always had Dodge trucks/ cars and a few Chryslers. The local Dodge dealer where I have purchased 8 cars/trucks in the last 10 years held my wife and I for over 9 hours. We came in and said we wanted to buy a new Durango and a new 3500 diesel pu. After 9 hrs, ( she had picked out the Durango she wanted 1/2 hr after we got there) they still had not done an appraisel on my 2002 trade in 2500 Said "come back tomorrow". I bought my 3500 from another dealer, from a great salesWOMAN, and paid for it on the spot. 7 weeks later it came in and there was 18 miles on it and a stain on the front seat! At first I was told by the service manager the 18 miles were a "test drive" for my benifit. I told the sales gal they could keep my "used" truck. She made it up to me with $1000.00+ in running boards and extras, so I took it...and love the truck...just not the dealers!!!

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Davis In SC

12-28-2005 20:52:47

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to Bus Driver, 12-28-2005 13:00:34

I agree about crappy Dodge dealers, I have 2 Dodge diesel PU's, lucky to say, no major issues... for several services, I just went to the Cummins place... I figure they know a lot more than the Dodge dealer does...

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IH pulr

12-28-2005 12:06:33

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

I HAVE 2 04 DURAMAXS WITH EXTENDED CAB AND 1 HAS 7' 6
' PLOW WITH 44,000 MILE ON IT THE OTHER HAS A UTULITY BODY I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS AT ALL WITH THEM WE CHANGE OIL AT 3,500 MILES AND FUEL FILTER EVERY OTHER OIL CHANGE ,ALSO NEW TRANNY FILTER BEFORE PLOW SEASON AND AFTER PLOW SEASON ONE OF THE TRUCKS PULLS MY GOOSENECK TRAILER THAT LOADED WITH MY MTA AND MY FARMALL H MUST BE ABOUT 15,000LBS THE TRANNY DOES NOT EVEN GET WARM I SAY GO WITH THE CHEVY UNLESS YOU LIKE TURNING WRENCHS ON THE WEEKENDS

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thejdman01

12-28-2005 11:21:30

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

Way way too many problems with the new power stroke. The allison transmission is a awsome transmission, the duramax is a good motor. I really think you will like the warm up mode on a duramax and the double over drive. Esp if you are getting a 1 ton dully i am assuming you will run a 4.10 rear end and when you see your fuel bill you will scream but imagine waht it would be with out a double overdrive. The dodge cummins i will agree is the best best best best hands down motor you can buy right now but the rest of the truck is terrible, body and drivetrain, dodge has come along ways but still very very problematic esp their automatics. I would definitly go with the duramax. Ford has sensed so many problems and are going to a 6.4 motor. Gms design is strong enoguh there are talks of them going to a twin turbo in 08 but so far that is jsut talks.

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Mike M

12-28-2005 13:15:18

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to thejdman01, 12-28-2005 11:21:30

I've been hearing that Dodge is junk stuff ever since I bought one in around 1997. If there is any truth to it then I must of gotten the only good one they made ! Bought it with 80,000 miles on it and it now has 160,000 on it. It has been very trouble free !

Now I can tell you horror stories about the many Chevy's I've owned. Enough to make me vow to never own another GM product again. Had a couple of Fords. I didn't like the trucks and the way stuff was set up but they didn't cause me any grief.

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Bob seND

12-28-2005 14:07:07

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to Mike M, 12-28-2005 13:15:18

Make that two good ones. 145,000 miles on my V10 Ram 2500 with not a problem. Change the transmission fluid and filter every 25000 miles
and it will hold up. 10-12.5 mpg loaded/empty.
Bob seND

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Nat

12-28-2005 15:15:59

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to Bob seND, 12-28-2005 14:07:07

I'll have to go along with Bob and Mike. I've had Dodges since the late 70'S and if there is a better truck, none of the people I know has found it.. My son has a 93' with 165000 mile on the origonal auto. Did I mention it is a 1 ton dump, pulls his 11,000lb skidsteer/trailer all over the state. Good Sam's club had a contest trying to find the most trouble free tow vehicle, and the dodge 3500 with the cummins won hands down.It's hard for me to believe that so many people have found the few dodges with bad auto's, and so many have found the few 6.0 powerstrokes with injecter problems and so many have found the few duramax's that had problems. Any deisel from the big 3 will give you years of trouble free service if treated right. I love my dodge, but I don't think every thing else is junk just because someone said that someone said that someone knew someone's cousin had a Ford/Chevy/Dodge that was giving them problems. Off my soapbox now, sorry I couldn't tell which one was the best. Later, Nat

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RustyFarmall

12-28-2005 11:00:40

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

I have always been a Chevy fan, but considering the financial and serious quality problems that GM is currently going through, I think I would strike a Chevy from the list.

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Mike M

12-28-2005 10:59:42

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

Newer Fords are problems. I don't trust GM anymore. Dodge has the best out so far in the light duty trucks with the Cummins.

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Polish Mike

12-28-2005 10:36:22

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

Didn't wanna look at the Dodge, huh ? I love my Cummins Turbo Diesel...STUPID amounts of torque at the bottom end of the power band...Wouldn't trade it for either the Ford or the Chevy...

A buddy of mine has the Duramax and he likes the truck a lot. I've driven it, and it handles like a car...smooth and quiet. I don't particularly like the body that's attached to the drivetrain, though...just personal opinion.

The Ford is a great truck, but there's been way too many complaints about the 6.0 diesel. Check on some of the on-line bulletin boards about the problems people have been having with that particular engine.

I know...This didn't help you a bit...Good luck with whatever you choose...Let us know what you end up buying.

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dhermesc

12-28-2005 11:39:10

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to Polish Mike, 12-28-2005 10:36:22

The late 2003s with the 6.0 and the 2004s have massive problems. The engine was practically redesigned a second time for the 2005 model year and is now what should have have been put on the road in the first place.

Currently it is rated higher in torque and hp then either the Dodge or the Chevy.

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Jonfarmer

12-28-2005 10:29:29

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to bigdiesel, 12-28-2005 09:52:05

I've had my ear to the ground on new pickups for awhile now, and from what I've gathered recently as far as diesels go, Dodge seems to be best. GM has had alot of problems with their trucks, I've heard everything from the seats leaching dies on your clothing at 15,000 miles, to the fuel injecters and injecter pumps failing prematurely. Now that the Duramax has been out for awhile and people are starting to get higher miles on them, I'm hearing more complaints. The Ford 6.0L diesel is fairly good, but my biggest complaint is they are by far the noisiest. Now Dodge comes with a Cummins, and the High Output one makes 325HP, and 610lbft of torque. I know it isn't as much as the competiton for horsepower, but it's enough and with aftermarket parts, you can get more out of it if you wanted. The Cummins is an inline 6 instead of a V8 design like GM and Ford, and is classed a medium duty engine, V.s GM and Ford are classed as light duty. I picked up a truck magazine and read about Dodge doing alittle publicity stunt hooking a big Cat mining truck to a Diesel 3500 and pulled it around, that was 153,000lbs or somesuch. The newer Cummins has common rail injection and doesn't make much more noise than a gasser, and they are powerful.

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husky

12-28-2005 14:39:17

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to Jonfarmer, 12-28-2005 10:29:29

I HAVE AN 05 POWER STROKE AND LOVE IT DUALS AND ALL !!!! YES IT IS A LITTLE NOISIER THAN DURAMAX BUT ITS MADE IN THE USA HAS LOTS OF POWER YESTERDAY I PULLED MY WIFE OUT OF A SNOW DRIFT APPOX 3-4FT HIGH THAT SHE GOT STUCK IN IN HER SUBURBAN ONCE SHE HOOKED IN IT WAS CALIFORNIA HERE I COME ( I LIVE IN PA) NO PROBLEMS WITH THIS TRUCK MY.02CENTS

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Luke S

12-28-2005 14:26:11

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to Jonfarmer, 12-28-2005 10:29:29

Dodge's are about 100 times better than they used to be. Especially the tranny's. We have had a bunch of em and tow 20-30k on a weekly basis and have had no tranny problems out of the 03 and newer style rams, auto or stick.

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Ray

12-28-2005 16:55:51

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to Luke S, 12-28-2005 14:26:11

My brothers cousin says fords are junk,my uncles
girlfriends brother says dodges are junk,my preachers organ player knows someone that said
chevy's are junk,so I guess that settles it.

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Vern-MI

12-29-2005 03:15:38

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to Ray, 12-28-2005 16:55:51

Ray, what did your grandmas boyfriend say about Toyota?

LMAO

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Tim...Ok

12-29-2005 04:46:57

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to Vern-MI, 12-29-2005 03:15:38

There you have it,you asked about ford vs. chevy diesels,and get told about 20 times to buy the Cummins..LOL

I"ve always been a chevy guy,if I wanted to drive a gasser,I still would be..But,I"m driving my 3rd Cummins CTD/Dodge since the early nineties and I don"t want anything else.. I drove the first 2 til they had about 175,000 on"em with no major powertrain problems..this one has 123,000 on it now,no problems yet..they had tranny troubles early on,but thats been corrected for quite some time now..

Tim...happy multiple Cummins Owner

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DaveBob

12-29-2005 09:09:26

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Re: Duramax -vs-Power stroke in reply to Tim...Ok, 12-29-2005 04:46:57

I've got an '05 Ford PS.Plenty of power.Maybe too much.They're all trying to sell to the wrong crowd.I'd rather have reliability than all out HP.My old work truck was a F350,crew cab,4X4,and we used it hard.never skipped a beat.Tried like hell to buy it for my own.My brother has a late 90's 7.3,and hauls 3-4 times a week.No problems.At all,and he's over 150K.I do like the Cummins the best,esp. the old 12 valve.My oldest brother has a new Cummins with 6 sp and 4.10s that will outrun,outpull,and out mileage my Ford.A friend has one of the first DuraMax/Allisons.We all told him to stay away.New motor,aluminum heads on iron block,etc.He has had NO problems,at all,and hauls heavy equipment,tractors,etc.
Talked to some folks a few weeks ago,who haul livestock for a living.They had a '98 Dodge dually,with over 700,000 miles on it.On third tranny (auto-had one BUILT the last time) and had shredded a transfer case.Motor has yet to be rebuilt.Good and bad in all flavors.I just wish trucks were still trucks.I don't need or want all the fancy crap.I had to really look just to get vinyl interior!

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