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Johannes

10-31-2005 05:54:03




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I have a Deutz 6206 with a 4 cylinder air cooled diesel engine. It started up fine this summer, but won't start now that the weather has gotten colder. Any suggestions?
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Johannes




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calamazoo

10-31-2005 18:13:50




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 Re: Cold Diesel Engine in reply to Johannes, 10-31-2005 05:54:03  
In the intake manifold there should be a glow plug. It is activated by turning the key then pulling the starter button until you hear a click(about half way). You may also have a perforated steel cover about 2 inches in diameter beside the starter button. If you have that you should feel heat from there, if not run the glow plug 30 seconds and try the starter. I've seen my dad start our 6807 at -20F with just the glow plug. Our 6006 was never as good as that but in 20 years of central ontario winters it never let us down with the shroud heater and glow plug combo

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Robert in W. Mi.

10-31-2005 16:36:33




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 Re: Cold Diesel Engine in reply to Johannes, 10-31-2005 05:54:03  
How cold are we talking about???

I owned a Deutz 6206 for over 15 years and never once did it refuse to start, even down to 0 F. I never plugged it in in anyway either, or run synthetic oil.

AGCO sells a heater that will fit behind the engine shroud that will work well. It's made for air cooled diesels and runs off 120V house hold current.

I think you have a problem some place else that you need to find, unless we are talking about a very cold temp.???

BTW, my 6206 had over 7,000 hours on it when i sold it, and it never needed anything but maintance on the engine in all that time.

Robert

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RayP(MI)

10-31-2005 15:26:46




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 Re: Cold Diesel Engine in reply to Johannes, 10-31-2005 05:54:03  
Can you get head bolt heaters? They replace head bolts with an electrically heated bolt. Check with your dealer, and favorite auto/tractor parts vendors as well. You want the heat at the top of the cylinders.



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doogdoog

10-31-2005 13:33:04




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 Re: Cold Diesel Engine in reply to Johannes, 10-31-2005 05:54:03  
Aloha, If you are using summer diesel fuel and the weather is cold enough, that may be your problem. The diesel waxes up and stops the flow of diesel (sort of like high cholesterol) assuming that your engine turns over like normal, that may be your problem.

Mahalo,
doogdoog



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buickanddeere

10-31-2005 09:42:07




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 Re: Cold Diesel Engine in reply to Johannes, 10-31-2005 05:54:03  
15W40 synthetic oil and make certain the starter is seeing at least 10V and better 11V measured between the starter's post and cats body. As previously mentioned, some forced air heaters can be used if careful. Some cetain booster in the fuel and making certain the injectors are 100% makes a difference too.



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Steven@AZ

10-31-2005 06:34:36




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 Re: Cold Diesel Engine in reply to Johannes, 10-31-2005 05:54:03  
Try an oil pan heater. Don't get the dipstick heater, they just fry the oil in the vicinity of the dipstick.

Get a good stick-on heating pad type oil pan heater. Warm oil will do wonders on a cold diesel engine. Check out summitracing.com for that heater...



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Allan in NE

10-31-2005 06:23:31




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 Re: Cold Diesel Engine in reply to Johannes, 10-31-2005 05:54:03  
Have you tried the old space heater trick yet? Works fer me. :>)

Allan



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Lou

10-31-2005 07:53:09




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 Re: Cold Diesel Engine in reply to Allan in NE, 10-31-2005 06:23:31  
We have 3 diesels all have electric heaters that heat the oil, these are perminent not the dipstick heaters. They work great as far as starting the tractors in severe cold. Im wondering now after reading about burning oil if there is a problem with this type heater? Lou



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Bob

10-31-2005 08:04:04




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 Re: Cold Diesel Engine in reply to Lou, 10-31-2005 07:53:09  
Commonly, it is suggested that oil immersion heaters be plugged in while the unit is still warm, as the heater will then keep the oil thin and thermally circulating.

If you plug an oil immersion heater in when the oil is bitter cold and thick, the oil next to the heater may coke up before the heat spreads to the mass of cold, thick, oil. Many dipstick heaters are of so little wattage, likely this wouldn't be a problem with those.

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