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E85 Pricing- fuzzy math

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26Red

10-12-2005 10:08:58




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I have been a long time supporter of E-85. But lately the pricing doesn't add up. I guess I am disappointed with the hole thing. If I were to run my truck on E85 100% it costs me more $$ than regular gas... due to the MPG difference between fuels. this is on a E85 compatible vehicle..

Lately the price difference between E85 fuel here in MN has been between 20 and 40 cents... To make it an economical choice it has to be at least a 75 cent difference!

I would run E85 if it balanced out. It still doesn't explain the high price of E85, and the low price of corn! What gives? Market demand I suppose...

Just had to vent a little..

Anyway if you have a car/truck you would like to convert check out this website.

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Butcher

10-12-2005 19:39:38




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 Re: E85 Pricing- fuzzy math in reply to 26Red, 10-12-2005 10:08:58  
Were would you like to see your money go?
Myself, I would rather put my $$ in the farmers pocket and a locall company producing E-85 than to give it to BIG OIL or some towl heads that would like to kill us all.
Just a rant.



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26Red

10-13-2005 07:52:08




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 Re: E85 Pricing- fuzzy math in reply to Butcher, 10-12-2005 19:39:38  
I would like see the money go to the local farmers and the ethanol plant. Apparently the ethanol is mixed at the gasoline distributors- hence the huge mark up for no reason. Some ethanol plants mix there own E85- so prices are much lower.



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Tom-Mn

10-12-2005 19:00:07




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 Re: E85 Pricing- fuzzy math in reply to 26Red, 10-12-2005 10:08:58  
I don't know what there is to think about when it takes two gallons of distilate to make one gallon of E85. This corn bs for fuel is all bs.



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Leland

10-12-2005 17:38:52




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 Re: E85 Pricing- fuzzy math in reply to 26Red, 10-12-2005 10:08:58  
Here in ILL E85 is 2.39 was as high as 2.69 a couple of weeks ago .I agree it needs to be a dallor cheaper to make it worth burning .Gas I get 22mpg E85 it drops to 14-15 with gas being 2.78 it's still the better choice



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T.K. in PA

10-12-2005 16:21:36




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 Re: E85 Pricing- fuzzy math in reply to 26Red, 10-12-2005 10:08:58  
just read an article the other day, it said if we had all the corn made into ethenol, and all the beans into biodiesel it would run this country 21 days.

sure we can produce more grain, but not for the prices we get. tired of the rich getting richer.



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paul

10-12-2005 12:29:38




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 Re: E85 Pricing- fuzzy math in reply to 26Red, 10-12-2005 10:08:58  
Thought the price diff needs to be 25 cents or so, not 70?

Locally the coop sells E85 for 5-15 cents, typically 9 cents less. Like you, I'm disheartened by that.

--->Paul



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dhermesc

10-13-2005 07:38:52




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 Re: E85 Pricing- fuzzy math in reply to paul, 10-12-2005 12:29:38  
When fuel prices doubled so did the differantial.



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730 virgil

10-12-2005 20:44:53




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 Re: E85 Pricing- fuzzy math in reply to paul, 10-12-2005 12:29:38  
does anyone know about e-50 ? i have told that most? all ? cars can run all this mix . i don't know anything about the price .



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paul

10-12-2005 21:33:58




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 Re: E85 Pricing- fuzzy math in reply to 730 virgil, 10-12-2005 20:44:53  
Manufaturers allow E10 in all vehicles.

Minnesota has passed legislation mandating E20 in a few years. Some manufaturers are not comfortable with this. So, E50 would not be good for the warrenty.

E85 was figured to be the best mix of the most E to still work with a vehicle that also runs on straight unleaded - for starting, knock, etc. for all fuels.

E100 works well in engines tuned for it. Mostly in South America.

Never heard of E50 being sold, but many people are mixing E85 and unleaded fuel to come out about there. Most say it works, a few have had issues.

--->Paul

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