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Who are the 4 major ag companys left?

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Tim M.

09-21-2005 15:41:08

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I can think of 3 of the 4. I heard this on a PBS special and they said that the industry was composed of tractors owned AGCO, CNH, John Deere, and some other. Can someone help me out? Thanks

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J. Schwiebert

09-23-2005 17:24:22

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Tim M., 09-21-2005 15:41:08

FYI: All 3 mentioned are the leaders somewhere. Deere is number one in North America. The Case-IH group is number one in Europe. Agco is number one in South American. Number 4, are you talking gross sales or how is this determined. Also what happened to the outfit in Canada that made the larger Ford tractors?

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RodinNS

09-23-2005 06:21:12

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Tim M., 09-21-2005 15:41:08

I think in terms of gross revenue, the largest is now the Case/ NewHolland /Fiat /Steyr/ conglomerate. Don't forget the very major industrial segment of this company with links to Hitachi, O&K, and others.....
# 2, far as I know, is AGCO..... The Allis Gleaner COmpany. Includes Massey Ferguson, White (formerly) Deutz-Allis, Same, Fendt, Valtra, Gleaner combines, as well as the MANUFACTURING end of the Challenger tractor business. I'm fairly certain that Cat is still doing some, if not all of the distribution. There's probably a host of others that I'm forgetting too.
#3 Good ole John Deere... Solid, Stable, and staying where they're at....

Now, #4 would only be a guess, but with the propensity of orange paint showing up around the countryside, I would have to say that Kubota is the fourth largest in the world today.....

That's my picks for today.....

Rod

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Deadeye

09-22-2005 12:16:58

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Tim M., 09-21-2005 15:41:08

Allied is the 4th one along with the other 3.

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Mike (WA)

09-22-2005 08:12:55

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Tim M., 09-21-2005 15:41:08

I had a great graphic of the evolution of ag companies on a former computer, before some worthless drugger broke into my office and stole it. The graphic showed all the changes in tractor manufacturer's ownership since the early days- JD was just a solid yellow line with no branches, while some of the other convolutions were remarkable. 'Course, its out of date now, since merger of CIH and NH, and other changes. But if anybody knows where I can get that graphic again, I would appreciate a reply.

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Farmall_Ryan

09-22-2005 10:48:46

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Mike (WA), 09-22-2005 08:12:55

Mike, your comment on the "tractor timeline" got me interested in finding such a thing. I started searching around and found the image I think you were talking about. I typed "tractor timeline" in google images. It popped up an image similar to what you mentioned. Turns out the image was located in the forums here on YT...

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the person posting the image got it from...

www.scheffelequip.com/ gifs/agtimeline2002.jpg

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Farmall_Ryan

09-22-2005 10:50:18

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Farmall_Ryan, 09-22-2005 10:48:46

Heres the image

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Farmall_Ryan

09-22-2005 10:52:42

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Farmall_Ryan, 09-22-2005 10:50:18

Oops, I guess that didn't work. You can still see the image on the old YT post.

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2x4

09-21-2005 21:16:29

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Tim M., 09-21-2005 15:41:08

Russian Co.; Belarus

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vafarmer

09-21-2005 20:31:55

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I would say Vermeer in reply to Tim M., 09-21-2005 15:41:08

JD, AGCO, CNH and VERMEER

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old

09-21-2005 18:14:15

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Tim M., 09-21-2005 15:41:08

What about NH/ford is that maybe it

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Tim M.

09-21-2005 16:17:44

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Answered my own question, but thanks for your help in reply to Tim M., 09-21-2005 15:41:08

The last group is ARGO, who owns and controls Landini, Valpadana, McCormick, Laverda, Sep, Pegoraro based out of France, Italy, and England.

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Fieldman12

09-21-2005 19:42:21

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Re: Answered my own question, but thanks for your in reply to Tim M., 09-21-2005 16:17:44

Agco(American Gleaner Company) -White,New Idea,Massey Ferguson, Terra Gator & Ro Gator,Willmar Spra-Coupe, Cat Challangers and the Cat MF rotary copy combine, Gleaner,Fendt,Sunflower, Valtra, Fendt,Tye, Glencoe,farmhand.

Deere & Company - Timberjack,Frontier

CNH (Case New Holland) - Case IH, New Holland,Steyr,DMI

Cat- Class combine painted yellow

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Mike M

09-21-2005 16:11:40

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Tim M., 09-21-2005 15:41:08

Kubota would have to be included I would think.

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Brokenwrench

09-21-2005 15:58:01

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Tim M., 09-21-2005 15:41:08

Is Massey under the AGCO name? If not they`d be my guess.

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Tim M.

09-21-2005 16:06:10

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Brokenwrench, 09-21-2005 15:58:01

Massy is with Ferguson who are both under AGCO.

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Matt_In

09-21-2005 15:55:05

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Tim M., 09-21-2005 15:41:08

If I had to guess, It would be CAT.

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Tim M

09-21-2005 16:04:20

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Matt_In, 09-21-2005 15:55:05

No, they are under AGCO

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paul

09-21-2005 20:13:09

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Tim M, 09-21-2005 16:04:20

More of a strange partnership, not 'under' Agco. ; ) I barely understood the arrangement when it started, and it's changed of late, don't know who is dealing with what when it is painted Yellow and called an ag machine.

--->Paul

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JD 5020 guy

09-21-2005 15:54:16

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Tim M., 09-21-2005 15:41:08

I think there is only 3.

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Tim M

09-21-2005 16:05:06

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to JD 5020 guy, 09-21-2005 15:54:16

As of 4 months there were still 4.

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JD 5020 guy

09-21-2005 16:21:24

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Re: Who are the 4 major ag companys left? in reply to Tim M, 09-21-2005 16:05:06

As far as I know there are only 3 full line ag companies in the US. Agco, JD, and CNH. Major lines like Challenger, Massey, Fendt, Gleaner, and so forth are owned by Agco. McCormick, Vermeer, and Buhler Versatile don't offer a full complete line of machinery. NH and CIH are now one. Which ones are left?

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just a guess

09-21-2005 15:49:49

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McCormick? in reply to Tim M., 09-21-2005 15:41:08

Is it McCormick or are they owned by somebody also?

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jfp

09-22-2005 03:33:48

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Re: McCormick? in reply to just a guess, 09-21-2005 15:49:49

Mahindra falls under IH. Made in India.

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504 Baler Guy

09-21-2005 18:49:18

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Re: McCormick? in reply to just a guess, 09-21-2005 15:49:49

They are owned by the Landi family of Italy.

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Don-Wi

09-21-2005 20:28:05

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Re: McCormick? in reply to 504 Baler Guy, 09-21-2005 18:49:18

Huh, I was at the local Case dealer yesterday getting parts for our Fox and they had a new McCormick on the floor.....
Donovan from Wisconsin

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Ralph in Texas

09-22-2005 00:39:08

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Re: McCormick? in reply to Don-Wi, 09-21-2005 20:28:05

"As part of the 1999 mega-merger of Case IH and New Holland, European Commission regulators required several divestitures, including the sale of Case's Doncaster, England plant, a transmission factory in France and rights to the long-dormant McCormick brand.

Italian equipment company Landini, a division of European ag equipment giant Argo, snapped up those assets, in the process becoming the fourth largest ag equipment manufacturer in the western world."

-- From an 2003 article on the Farm Industry News Web site

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