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Way Up Here

05-30-2005 14:21:08




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Probably going to catch it for posting this sort of a question here but where else would I get any replies worth reading but here on the YT forum sites. Anyways, went to a wedding a couple of weeks ago and the young lady kept her own last name as is done so often these days. Personally, I don't worry about that too much although I think it's nice if a child has the same last name as their mother but no big deal. Just wondering what percentage you would guess is that way these days and what percentage change their names to their husband's last name. My wife guesses that it is a 50/50 split these days, I would say maybe one in three keep their names while two out of three change it. Any guesses from you and what's happening in the area where you live?

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timm

06-03-2005 22:12:06




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Way Up Here, 05-30-2005 14:21:08  
well im gay and my boyfriend dont know which last name to take once they legalize gay marrige. for a bacholor party we are goin to run down town naked



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draire@umich.edu

05-31-2005 12:29:37




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Way Up Here, 05-30-2005 14:21:08  
My wife of 22 years kept her maiden name in respect for her doctor father, who had only daughters....

I thought that was a very nice gesture.

As a single parent I brought two teenage children into the marrage. Furthermore, my wife was unable to have children, so children's last names wasn't an issue... she's still 'MOM' to them, even to this day....



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THEkyroastnear

05-31-2005 10:44:53




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Way Up Here, 05-30-2005 14:21:08  
live in western ky- rural area. only know of one woman who uses her maiden name she is a doctor although when i talk of high-school female classmates i still call them their maiden name to my wife or friends



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Mike (WA)

05-31-2005 08:25:55




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Way Up Here, 05-30-2005 14:21:08  
My son, who started his teenage years as a Rush Limbaugh listener, and gradually morphed into a tree hugger, encouraged his new wife to keep her last name. She kept "forgetting" and using his name instead. They've been married 4 years, and we don't hear much about the name thing anymore. They did give their first son her maiden name as a middle name, and that seemed to make everyone happy. I'd say less than 10% of women in rural Washington keep their maiden name.

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Nolan

05-31-2005 06:33:30




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Way Up Here, 05-30-2005 14:21:08  
Mm, I'd guess you're probably a little high in your estimate of the number of women who keep their maiden name.

My wife did, at my request. She personally didn't care. But since she did business under her name, I thought she should keep it. After years of grief with us having two different names she changed it. Sure has made life a lot easier.



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Mark - IN.

05-30-2005 19:48:19




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Way Up Here, 05-30-2005 14:21:08  
Heck, that's nothing. My last name is Polish, 2 million letters long, and if I ever get married, I'm finding a woman that only has one letter to her last name, and I'm taking it so I don't have to write the long SOB again. Just aint ever found a lady willing enough to marry someone as ugly as me. Has she got a short last name? 2 letters or less? Tell her if they ever get divorced, I'm available. LOL.

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Miss Grundy

05-31-2005 02:53:02




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Mark - IN., 05-30-2005 19:48:19  
No Kidding?!?!?!



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Mark - IN.

05-31-2005 15:39:10




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Miss Grundy, 05-31-2005 02:53:02  
Miss Grundy, your name's too long. I count 6 letters. When I sign mine, I've already shortened down to 2, sort've. The "K" it begins with, and the big squiggly loop that makes up the rest of it. Ever see a doctor's writing? That's ledgable compaired to my signature. K + squiggly loop (or 4 loops if I'm trying to impress someone), done. That's my name, not playing with the dumb thing. Johny Cash's "A Boy Named Sue"? What was he complaining about? Only had 3 letters. He had it easy. LOL.

And I was joking about that guy's new bride leaving him. Would never get involved with something like that.

Mark

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Davis In SC

05-30-2005 19:02:19




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Way Up Here, 05-30-2005 14:21:08  
Down in the South, the only time we see that is if the lady has already established recognition in her field under her maiden name..... I would say less than 10 % do that here....



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Les

05-30-2005 17:15:32




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Way Up Here, 05-30-2005 14:21:08  
Up here in the "enlightened" northeast, there are some that don't and some do the stupid hyphenation thing. But it's nowhere near 50/50 or even 1 in 3. I'd guess less than 10%. Heck, I'm just happy to see that they get married at all because so many don't these days, unfortunately, and are too stupid to be ashamed of it. Including members of my own family.
*sigh*



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buickanddeere

05-30-2005 19:14:04




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Les, 05-30-2005 17:15:32  
I suggested to my wife she do the stupid hyphenation thing. It's worked for 15 years. The children carry just my surname. In Quebec it's required that the married couple take the wife's name if it's frech and his isn't.



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Quebec Red

05-31-2005 06:00:32




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to buickanddeere, 05-30-2005 19:14:04  
Just a little correction is in order. In Quebec the woman keeps her name. She may opt to use her husbands name or the two names for all purposes other than government correspondance. Most women, English or French, keep their own name and have done so for years. Makes pratical sense. Outside of Quebec people are concerned with this so called French Thing. Yes, there are differences and points to be discussed, along with a few desired changes to some provincial laws. Time will see. This is not the place for a political discussion, (though I will debate all comers). QR

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Quebec Red

05-31-2005 10:07:25




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to buickanddeere, 05-31-2005 07:14:38  
The phrase ``The childre will take the women's name if French instead of the Father`s if not French `is completely in error. This is the second time that you have erred on this subject. Please stand corrected. QR



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Quebec Red

05-31-2005 20:34:50




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to buickanddeere, 05-31-2005 11:26:57  
As I have previously stated on YT Mag, I am located in the Ottawa Valley. In regards to these series of posts, at least it is very apparent that at least one of us (ME) has a correct knowledge of spelling and English composition. Your second , third and fourth phrases are obviously based on your ignorance of Canadian law. Your closing sentence must be based on a whim of Mr. Harper and his spin doctors (like your handle -buickanddeere- both the General and JD are well known for them). It would lend credence to your peabrain collection of facts to state the source of your so called facts. Also, any tax money coming to Quebec also includes my contribution. As I said previously, this is not the forum for such a discussion, but I cannot allow some ignorant person to post blatant lies. So go to school and learn composition, then take a Masters in political science. Then learn about the real world. Come to the OV and I will have the southern boys educate you. Enough time wasted. You are welcome back when you have accurate items to add to the discussion.

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buickanddeere

06-02-2005 15:29:36




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Quebec Red, 05-31-2005 20:34:50  
I used lower case letters for a reason. As for spelling the only word I missed was government in the last post. As for the Anglo’s point of view and the franco's point of view. It's safe to say we will never see eye to eye on the same issue I'm tired of pandering to the franco quebec minority and having franco policy run the entire country. How many years of rule from franco Prime Ministers has there been in the past 35+ years? Bring on Harper please, to clean up the mess. I don't care for the official slant the world sees at the Olympics etc. The majority of athletes that receive government support are french. The world thinks Canadians speak french among each other and only speak English when conversing with outsiders. Far be it from the truth. The french have been so spoiled and catered too for so long. They fear the loss of privilege and accountability. The corruption in the public service and among elected officials rivals third world banana republics. I suppose Ad Scam, Human Resources loosing 1+ billion into quebec they can't find is ok? The transfer of military bases from Anglo provinces to quebec is ok with you? You are strangely quiet about the 733 million bribe taking two Bombardier contracts away in one week. And that is just the tip of the iceberg JC was never investigated and charged for influence in that golf course swindle, why? How is it fair to have the language police tear down English business signs and fine businesses for using English in quebec? How is it quebec being a “have “ province receives more from the Federal gov’t than they contribute? The country from the western quebec border west, has been carrying the “have not” eastern provinces along with quebec since the 1960’s. If we could just go back to the 70's and sever quebec drain from our country. It would have cost us so little in the long run. How about you Ottawa Valley boys coming over here for an education? Seems you have to fall back on grammar errors rather than face the facts.

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Quebec Red

06-03-2005 07:45:24




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to buickanddeere, 06-02-2005 15:29:36  
New post, same BS. When you pass English Composition , History 101, along with Economics and Political Science, your posts will be welcomed and debated with true facts, proper diction, and courtesy. Unfortunately, all three are grossly absent in your writing. It is ignorant narrow minded people as yourself that are causing problems. Present truthful facts, not opinions, not taking a headline here and there to suit your idea. The OV boys do not have to, as you state, come over here for an education, cause we are here. And here is there. QR

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Quebec Red

06-03-2005 19:46:24




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to buickanddeere, 06-03-2005 10:25:45  
I stand by what I said. No diversion is attempted,nor am I ignoring questions. I also see that it is you who are bringing up the racist card. As the old saying goes, It takes one to know one. I also see that you did not yet pass elementary grammer, not even a Spellcheck program. Ah to live in the Georgian Bay area.... Before saying that someone is a prime example of Canada`s problems (that in itself is opening yourself to a slander and character defamation suit, losing which would be hard on your `toy`, better be careful to the point of apologizing.) And by the way be sure to enroll in debating class, as it is very apparent you do not have the faintest notion of discussion ethics. That class you aced!!!!! !.

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Quebec Red

06-04-2005 16:27:42




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to buickanddeere, 06-04-2005 07:05:51  
Unfortunately you have omitted to state facts! (see previous posts to remind yourself). I make no diversions. I politely addressed a statement made by you that was 100% in error. Such a statement by you, indicates a major lack of knowledge re Canadian rights. That has no connection to a perceived government discord. Yes,the laws are on the books in plain view, as you state. Now, how about spending some serious time reading, understanding, remembering, and putting into practice what you read...Also ,take English Composition (as I have suggested in previous posts, espscially sentence structure and proper capitalization) . I will quickly and lightly respond to your improperly written last phrase. Remember the late Honourable William Davis? Now you have wasted more than enough Forum previlege as you do not understand that you do not understand. My OV buddies (Ont. residence) realize that you are apparentlly suffering from the disease of your area (Belindaitis). If not, take your Buickanddeere and go and play some where where people who do not understand that they do not understand are welcome. It sure as h--- is not on YT nor in this country. I will not respond to any more misinformation posted by you or (if you have any) your buddies. To think that this started as a correction on a law interpretation, and ends up as an combination English and, to put it politely, a manners exercise. Accept your defeat, as proven by true FACTS. Opinions, and berated truths, and ignorance are what certain eastern countries try to use on unspecting populations ..... . QR

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buickanddeere

06-04-2005 17:55:39




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Quebec Red, 06-04-2005 16:27:42  
You have again demonstrated how you willingly refuse to see, hear and address the facts. So keen is your attempt to a create a diversion, you have ignored a previous statement. “The lack of capitalization on some words is by choice for emphasis”. Again, the inequality, double standards and corruption in this country must be brought under control. Why do you deny that some families change their name or name the children with the women’s french surname, rather than using the male’s surname?

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QR

06-05-2005 06:38:46




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to buickanddeere, 06-04-2005 17:55:39  
My previous postings stated the truth. It is so sad that you do not understand that you do not understand. My legal references: McGill University, Faculty of Law, Province of Quebec Statutes, Section 381 to 684 inclusive. My references re English Composition: McGill University,subcourse English 31-745I. This is a required for those entering McGill. It has been added to adress students who are lacking communication skills..... Since the shoe fits, either wear it or eat it. Salut toi!!

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buickanddeere

06-05-2005 12:18:01




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to QR, 06-05-2005 06:38:46  
It’s so sad to see someone educated beyond their intelligence and lacking morals. Then you can not face plain obvious questions. And so lacking self worth that you dare not accept guilt. How you stand by and let the corruption and bias the federal civil service, quebec civil service, federal and provincial governments continue? You must be gaining (stealing) from the rest of the country yourself and do want the free ride to end. Why are you in such denial? Have you been so indoctrinated and brainwashed at McGill. Is the truth and the real world outside of the inbred intellectual community lost to you? Any chance of any bias from the profs at McGill when you were young and impressionable? You did have to agree with the profs to achieve a passing grade. It’s just so easy to sell out isn’t it?

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QR

06-05-2005 14:58:58




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to buickanddeere, 06-05-2005 12:18:01  
Your posts are slanderous. (as well as in error x2). Glad that you live in your little sphere. By the way, I hope that your caregivers with their white coats look after your EVERY requirement; if they do not, we O.V. lads from BOTH sides will be more than happy to attend to you. You realize I trust that you know that you are not either first nor the first. It is so simply to sit in front of your keyboard, and live in the fantasy world of Oz. Do not forget to trim your beard, as certain objects could cause problems. By the way, how is your foot? Good tasting or would you need some more added flavouring???.... Almost like wondering, something you must spend much of your limited energy doing. Reread and understand, or you do not understand that you do not understand. Others do. QR

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QR

06-05-2005 14:49:05




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to buickanddeere, 06-05-2005 12:18:01  
Your posts are slanderous. (as well as in error x2). Glad that you live in your little sphere. By the way, I hope that your caregivers with their white coats look after your EVERY requirement; if they do not, we O.V. lads from BOTH sides will be more than happy to attend to you. You realize I trust that you know that you are not either first nor the first. It is so simply to sit in front of your keyboard, and live in the fantasy world of Oz. Do not forget to trim your beard, as certain objects could cause problems. By the way, how is your foot? Good tasting or would you need some more added flavouring???.... Almost like wondering, something you must spend much of your limited energy doing. Reread and understand, or you do not understand that you do not understand. Others do. QR

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buickanddeere

06-05-2005 19:10:11




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to QR, 06-05-2005 14:49:05  
I see you have trouble posting single messages as well as the denial and moral problems. We all here are still waiting on your explanation for the quebec language police etc. Your attempt to "bait and switch" with a diversion is a classic. It's a similar tactic of the accused finding fault with the officers who arrested the person in the very act of committing a crime. How about thinking for yourself rather than the franco "anti english/we franco's deserve more" bias you have been indoctrinated with since birth. I’m surprised you haven’t gone crying to Kim with a boo-hoo story before now. It’s rare for your type to make a stand on your own. And if you haven’t noticed. A franco name and being bilingual with the lack of an english accent is great quebec, federal government, military and Mountie job security. By the way. Why are Inter-provincial trade tickets good in every province except quebec? Yet the quebec inter-provincial trade ticket is accepted in every province?

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Quebec Red

06-06-2005 07:51:48




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to buickanddeere, 06-05-2005 19:10:11  
In reviewing some posts that I have saved I came across a post using the handle buickanddeere that was also doubleposted. He who cast stone... Again, you have proven your lack of comprehension, big time. YOU made a false statement, I politely corrected you. YOU did not accept said corrrection and proceeded to turn the dicussion into a governmental discussion, pitting Ottawa verses Quebec verses Toronto, all the time supporting your points with opinions and unverifiable statements, and I might add, sentences poorly constructed , laced with blatent (and possible willful) grammetical error, even after being reapproched on said points. No person has the right to butcher the principles of English Composition as you reasoned. No, I will not take the bait and go into a governmental discussion, as this is not the place, especially a) this was a post to correct YOUR error; b) You respect the law as written by one who poses as buickanddeere, ie a law unto yourself. No I will not go as you would so dearly like me to-cry to Kim. We OV lads take care of business without outside help. My position stands: YOU were and are wrong. YOU refuse to admit error. YOU refuse to accept correction . YOU refuse to debate or discuss properly. YOU do not reread previous postings. In summation, YOU do not understand that YOU do not understand!!!! Understand now? Comprends tu???

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buickanddeere

06-06-2005 09:09:48




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Quebec Red, 06-06-2005 07:51:48  
You are still trying to change the topic. An emotional response and dodge is not an answer where a factual reply is required. That is fighting like a women or a lawyer. The errors in the political system that bans English in quebec is just one of the many questions you dare not answer. You cannot handle admitting to an injustice. You can only ignore or dismiss the issues and attempt to change the topic. A classic "legal weasel" move used in courts or inquiries. It's an attempt to portray the victim or law enforcement personal as unjust. That tactic will fool some jurors into letting a guilty criminal go unpunished, won’t work here. Who do you have assisting you in writing your diversions? There has been some change in the tone and text over the span of your posts. How can you claim to be a province of want while being on a better federal “teat” than any other province in Confederation? The only certain use of grammar and spelling you have is MS spell checker. It depends on what Nation it's set for to obtain some particular spelling and grammar. There is where most of your so called "errors" originate. So how about a golf course deal, Human Resources, Federal Transfer Payments and military base transfers? Ad Scam, English business signs being banned in quebec and the latest scoop of Bombardier jobs? Why do the francos deserve special privilege at the expense of the rest of Canada? The name change to the french women's rather than the English man's surname is not common but it does occur.

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Redmud

05-30-2005 15:36:50




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Way Up Here, 05-30-2005 14:21:08  
No reason you should catch it that I can see, this is important stuff... My wife of 46 years dropped her first name, moved her middle and last forward, stuck mine on the tail end, and that's where I've been ever sense. Sad part is, I loved her first name and she couldn't stand it. And I would say 99.9 of the females take the man's name out here in west Texas.



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Harley

05-30-2005 16:04:12




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Redmud, 05-30-2005 15:36:50  
My first two took my last name, and everything else I had at the time, and I kinda wish they would have kept theirs. NUmber one now don't care, and is happy just making me happy. What else is there. Kinda makes me try a little harder. Harley



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MPK

05-30-2005 16:51:44




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to Harley, 05-30-2005 16:04:12  
At least 99% take their husbands name. About the only ones that would be different are lawyers and collage professors.



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edchainsaw

05-30-2005 20:20:05




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 Re: OT: Females and their married names .... in reply to MPK, 05-30-2005 16:51:44  
this part of INDIANA

not 10% of all my friends and relatives (HUGE FAMILIES) only 2 and one hyphonated and one kept our last family name as his last name was on a watch list.



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