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Jim@concordfarms.

04-26-2005 05:12:23

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Just found out last night I'm going to be working in Manistique, MI for 2-3 months. Anybody know if they do any farming up there or have any tractor shows during May, June, or July. I'm not into boating or fishing, just looking for something to do when not working. Thanks. Jim.

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Bill(Wis)

04-29-2005 07:07:05

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Re: Anybody in Mich. U/P? in reply to Jim@concordfarms., 04-26-2005 05:12:23

Go over to the Ford 8N board and try to find a guy named "Barnstormer". He might have some info.

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Johnsdeere

04-27-2005 16:54:00

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Re: Anybody in Mich. U/P? in reply to Jim@concordfarms., 04-26-2005 05:12:23

I live in Cooks, about 10 miles west of Manistique. Some farming in my area, beans, hay, oats etc. This was potato country 10 years ago. Until the potato contracts went to Canada from here. Good tractor show in Escanaba 55 miles from Manistique on Labor day weekend each year. What project brings you here for 2-3 months? Email me if you need any more info on the area.

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UPRED

04-26-2005 20:38:31

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Re: Anybody in Mich. U/P? in reply to Jim@concordfarms., 04-26-2005 05:12:23

Up Steam & gas engine clup meets at the UP state fair grounds in Escanaba, I think its the weekend after the fair. There is also one in Niagara Wis. near Iron Mountain not sure when but will try to find out.

The UP the land with 6 months of great skiing and 6 months not so great skiing

Rick

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Paul in Mich

04-26-2005 18:26:17

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Re: Anybody in Mich. U/P? in reply to Jim@concordfarms., 04-26-2005 05:12:23

jim, I don"t know about shows in the U/P, but there is a great show in Buckley south of Traverse city and East of Manistee that is a great show, among other good to great shows in Lower Mich. I"m sure if you ask around, you will be able to find a show or so in the U/P.

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justs

04-27-2005 04:24:24

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buckly in reply to Paul in Mich, 04-26-2005 18:26:17

is it still a go for this year. they got burned out this winter.

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Paul in Mich

04-27-2005 05:06:25

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Re: buckly in reply to justs, 04-27-2005 04:24:24

Not sure, havent heard yet, good question. I hope they proceed as it is one of Michigan"s better tractor shows. Only bad thing is that sometimes, like last year, it is on the same weekend as the Oakley show which is also one of michigan"s best.

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Fergus

04-26-2005 06:15:36

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Re: Anybody in Mich. U/P? in reply to Jim@concordfarms., 04-26-2005 05:12:23

Jim, type upsteamandgasengine in your browser. That is a hobby group located in Escanaba. They do some events in the summer, but I think their main show is on Labor Day weekend, which may be after your stay. There are others in the northern lower pen. as well. Farming is limited but practiced up there. Short season corn and a lot of hay. Root crops for the Pasties of course. Just came through there last weekend. You certainly see more former small farms than active, current ones.

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jdemaris

04-26-2005 13:35:15

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Re: Anybody in Mich. U/P? in reply to Fergus, 04-26-2005 06:15:36

The Escanaba show is in September I believe. There is a county fair in July near Manistique that has tractors though. Besides the potatos and short corn, I drove through a few asparagus farms along the bottom of the UP.

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jdemaris

04-26-2005 06:00:18

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Re: Anybody in Mich. U/P? in reply to Jim@concordfarms., 04-26-2005 05:12:23

There's a tractor show in Alpena every year but that's a little bit a ride from Manistique, but worth it. I drive through the UP every summer, always trying to buy some rural land - but so far, it hasn't happened. It hard to come from green hilly-mountain land in New York State, and then go to Michigan and be surrouned by flat land and sand. About the only hill I've seen there is Porcupine Mountain. Some of the lakes are beautiful though, but the UP is filling up with people - just like the Adirondacks is here. I've come across many farms in the lower UP, but not the upper UP. I've been doing a lot of searching around Grand Marais and Paradise. One thing that seems counter-intuitive to me - there's a Polish town named Posen near Alpena. It's all potato farms - calls itself the potato capital of Michigan. And, as far as I can tell, the soil is lime base - everywhere. Now, here in New York, we have high acid soil which is great for potatos, but awful for grass crops and corn - so we have to spend a fortune on adding lime. I've always understood that lime ruins crops like potatos or blueberries. So, how come the potatoes grow in Posen? My wife was originally, as I understand, a Michigan "Troll", that is, a person who grew up below the bridge by Makinac Island. Her parents, both auto engineers from Dearborn, retired in Alpena. So, we've been thinking of making a move to the UP - I could never stand living as a Troll below the bridge though. One more thing - I don't know how well you know Michigan - but - and this is coming from a person who is not a typical museum person - go to the Henry Ford Museum/Greenfield Village - it is absolutey amazing. At least it was when I was there. I've heard it is slowly getting worse since it is run by college educated "experts." When I saw it a few years ago, it reflected the many interests of a rich smart guy that collected anything mechanical from all over world - that guy being Henry Ford and his pals Harvey Firestone, Thomas Edison, Harry Ferguson and David Brown. Seems once Henry had his fortune, he spent his entire life collecting "stuff", he even hired people to search the world and buy for him. It was/is the oddest and most fantastic collection I've ever seen. Cars, trucks, tractors, old kitchen appliances, old camping stuff, entire historic buildings moved there from all over the world - even the chair Abe Lincoln was sitting in when he got shot - and still covered with dried blood.

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willyz

05-01-2005 05:29:27

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Re: Anybody in Mich. U/P? in reply to jdemaris, 04-26-2005 06:00:18

I can maybe fill you in on the potatoes in Posen. Years ago we were all lumbermen in Posen and practiced a more subsistance type farming. In the early 1900's there was a fire that started in the town of Metz and it burned most of Preque Isle county including most of Posen township. With the forests mostly gone the people turned to farming an occupation many of them knew from their respective countries in Europe. Us Pollacks in Posen I guess didn't know you couldn't grow potatoes on the mellow loam soil. We planted them and they grew and raised our families for generations. Finally the experts from Michigan State came and informed us that our farms were best suited for hunting camps and TB infested deer, and probably should have been given back to the Indians. With this new found knowledge most of the potato farmers went out of business and now in Posen there are just 2 families raising potatoes. Slow learners I guess.

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jdemaris

05-01-2005 07:21:21

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Re: Anybody in Mich. U/P? in reply to willyz, 05-01-2005 05:29:27

Thanks for the info, it's is interesting and also sounds familiar. I live in dairy farm country in Otsego Co., NY. There is also an Otsego Co. in Michigan, named after our county. In regard to this area, maybe I should say "former" dariy country. Most farms are either gone, or dying. I can't blame the local County government Agricultural-extension for the problem, but they certainly have given some bad advice over the years. They get most of their info from New York agricultural colleges. A few farms are getting bought by Amish families who follow their own advice and seem to do well enough to get by. I just met with a new family, they are migrating from the state of Maryland. Seems farming has died there and land and taxes are too high. We almost bought a defunct farm in Posen - but the price was more than I wanted to pay. It had a potato barn on the property which I had never seen before. Also had a large log home that had been covered with vinyl siding. The guy selling it seemed to think the new vinyl siding was a selling point - whereas - if we'd bought the place I would have immediately torn it all off. I used to live in Florida and Chester, New York which sounds similar to your story about Posen -except the Polish people there grew onions and lettuce instead of potatos. It was there that I first became interested in older farm equipment. Most of the Polish farmers, working in the very soft "black dirt" used Deere crawlers with wide "swamp pads" for spring plowing, and two wheeled Planet Junior walk-behind tractors and planters in the onion-set beds. That was in the early 70s, I think the farms are all gone now.

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MarkB_MI

04-26-2005 16:19:09

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Re: Anybody in Mich. U/P? in reply to jdemaris, 04-26-2005 06:00:18

JD,

Ford Museum/Greenfield Village (now called "the Henry Ford") is certainly something you don't want to miss if you're in the area, but it's a day's drive from the UP to Dearborn! That would make it a minimum 3-day trip: one day to drive down, one day at the museum, and another day to drive back.

For what it's worth, I've seen a few mosquitoes in the UP that could pass for compact tractors. Maybe that will have to do for Jim.

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Paul in Mich

04-26-2005 18:22:28

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Re: Anybody in Mich. U/P? in reply to MarkB_MI, 04-26-2005 16:19:09

I"ve heard that Mosquito pulling was becomming quite an event in the U/P. I wonder how much a team would cost.....

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Hugh MacKay

04-26-2005 17:12:42

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Re: Anybody in Mich. U/P? in reply to MarkB_MI, 04-26-2005 16:19:09

Mark: The U/P sounds interesting from everyone's comments. That mosquito problem is bad though, across the lake in Canada, they remind you of military aircraft, almost as much noise.

A friend of mine told me their first born child was conceived in a tent in mid July up in that country. Man it must have been one H of a good tent.

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Easy

04-26-2005 10:23:04

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Re: Anybody in Mich. U/P? in reply to jdemaris, 04-26-2005 06:00:18

I was visting the up when I was a kid, my grandfather was from there, and I remember seeing snow under some trees in May..... Double digit minus readings aren't uncommon most winters either. Easy.

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Vern-MI

04-26-2005 07:55:31

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Re: Anybody in Mich. U/P? in reply to jdemaris, 04-26-2005 06:00:18

A friend just bought 40 acres near Trenary for $15,000. He was even able to find a spot to build a house on it. It is mostly swamp. IT IS COLD UP THERE! When it is not cold it is the breeding place for all or more of the worlds biting insects. He has trouble remembering to open the window before shooting the deer and elk especially after visting the Trenary tavern.

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jdemaris

04-26-2005 13:29:50

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Re: Anybody in Mich. U/P? in reply to Vern-MI, 04-26-2005 07:55:31

I've looked in that area a few times, it's close to the Hiawatha State Park. Just about everything I saw in that area was dried-up swamp, not even real swamp. I wouldn't mind having some wetland with water in it. I guess, just about the entire state of Michigan is drained land - formerly wetland. As far as the weather goes, it's not much different than here where I live in central New York State. We had light snow and ice yesterday and I've seen frost every month of the year except maybe July. We had a snowstorm a few years ago when the leaves were fully out, and it took down trees and branches all over - they don't handle snow weight very well. I drove up to my property in the southern Adirondacks a few days ago and the lakes are still half covered with ice and there's not a hint of green anywhere. We get well below zero in the winter and I've seen (actually felt) -35F. From what I've seen and read, many parts of the UP that are close to the big lakes are somewhat buffered from temperature extremes - but I think their Spring is colder than here, maybe two weeks behind - just like the Adirondacks. I've got some forest land in Jefferson County, Northern New York that is supposed to get close to the highest average snowfall in the contiguous 48 states - that because of lake effect from Lake Ontario. By the way, I'm not trashing Michigan. If I spent my life living in a urban environment, much of the UP would seem like heaven to me. My problem is, I lived in the Northeast Kingdom in Vermont along the Canadian border - before it got ruined, and then here. Both places are absolutely beautiful, but getting crowded - and farms almost all gone, etc. etc. So, leaving here and looking for a place I like in the UP of Michigan is not an easy task. And, what is considered "average" land here - acreage, some mountain views, trout stream, sugar maple stands, etc. is rare and way out of my price range in the UP.

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